There’s a frequent debate in Christian circles about how much we should be interested in politics and ultimately be involved in it — whatever that means. Is reading an article on religious liberty being “involved” or “entangled?” Even the notion of paying attention to politics is sometimes met with distaste as if that were beneath even the lowest in society. I get it. But I’d like to make a case for why politics should matter to Christians: Because it does.
Before you accuse me of making a circular argument here, let me explain. The fact that something is true is different than the question of whether it should be true or whether you want it to be true. Politics does impact our lives as Christians, whether we like that fact or not.
If we really believe what we say we do — that our dystopian culture needs to hear about God — then we should care about our ability to speak openly about Jesus without fear of oppression. And frankly, non-believers should care about this right, too, lest an overreaching government decide that their pet belief is no longer authorized by bureaucrats in Washington. Last I checked, the right to speak freely on faith and politics alike is guaranteed in our country by the First Amendment:
First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
This brings to mind a quote from Pericles in the 5th century B.C. Greece:
“Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you.”
Do you find politics interesting when the government wants to keep you from going to church or the grocery store? How about when they want to force your child to get a vaccine you don’t trust or want? Whatever you believe about the Covid vaccines, shouldn’t you have the right to choose what chemicals you put in your body, or your child’s body?
Or maybe you’ll care more about politics when they start sexualizing your kids, messing with their impressionable heads with anti-science propaganda about male vs. female biology? Will you care then?
What will it take to get you to care?
Stanton has always countered that the world of politics is merely a distraction — that voting or advocating for public policy change of any sort is getting “entangled” in the affairs of this world. Yes, political conversations can be all-consuming, but so can any subject. That is more about having a balance.
And also, 2 Timothy 2:4 means no such thing. Ironically, Paul is actually hinting to Timothy that he should join Paul in suffering for the gospel full-time, and in so many words, authorizes him to take support from the flock for that full-time suffering. That doesn’t fit the Stanton narrative, does it? Read it yourself:
2 Timothy 2:2-7 – “You then, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2 And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others. 3 Join with me in suffering, like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 4 No one serving as a soldier gets entangled in civilian affairs, but rather tries to please his commanding officer. 5 Similarly, anyone who competes as an athlete does not receive the victor’s crown except by competing according to the rules. 6 The hardworking farmer should be the first to receive a share of the crops. 7 Reflect on what I am saying, for the Lord will give you insight into all this.”
But Stanton dodges that context and goes on to tell us that it’s God who sets up kings and brings them down, not us:
Daniel 2:21 – “And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding.”
But they fail to acknowledge that we don’t live under a monarchy in America. We elect our leaders (or pretend to, but that’s a different conversation) and have been given — by God, I would argue — a voice in choosing our laws and legislators. Isn’t it a sin if we know to do good and don’t do it? I could make a compelling case that it’s a sin not to vote to improve human liberty, but I won’t go there — we already have too many rules of men to live by.
Nevertheless, if we consider freedom in America to be a blessing from God — with the freedom to worship, pray, and speak publicly about our faith or anything else — we should realize that this blessing is secured by another one: The right of self-government.
God gave America the blessing of self-government. Aren’t we despising that blessing like Esau did when we don’t appreciate it and use it for good? Shouldn’t we want to positively influence the culture our kids and grandkids will grow up in?
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Great post, Kevin, Came across this splendid and interesting book. “Why God cares about Politics”. https://www.amazon.com/Why-God-Cares-About-Politics/dp/1619848643 Question is, Why were all of Americas Founders Christian, and we taught the Bible in school in 1776? How come homosexuality, abortion, birth control, and pornography were all illegal in America until 1960, and we are supposed to be sitting on our hands doing nothing? Here are what Americas Founders had to say about Christianity and virtue. http://liberty1.org/virtue.htm This fatalism is truly fatal. Just got done with a book describing how Russia was conquered by Communism, and one of the main reasons was because… Read more »
Stanton’s “withdrawal of fellowship” (a completely misused term) should be an embarrassment to anyone who even has a cursory knowledge of scripture.
I can definitely buy that for your mother.
I grew up in this lady’s church and it’s a cult. I got out at 13 but it still has lifetime effects in my daily choices.
Feminism has poisoned America. Stanton wasn’t the only one.
When women run an organization, it’s dominated by feelings, and there rarely fail to be major issues.
It had a lot of good, but women teachers caused problems that have lasted for 50+ years.
90% of problems in marriages are caused by women, but we won’t hear that in Stanton, because it’s been run by women for its whole history.
The men are too afraid of the women to obey God.
Funny, this ethnic group was spoken of the most in the New Testament, where they were denounced more than the seven deadly sins, 193 to just over 100. Yet, it was never once talked about in a Stanton nonmember class. And America should still be 90% White. Jews have been furiously trying to diversify White nations, but Whites, Latinos, Asians, and Blacks aren’t allowed to move to Israel. America was just 90% White in 1960, before the Jewish-pushed, treacherous, 1965 “Hart-Cellar Act.” “It won’t affect your demographics” slyly lied the parasite Jew. 64 years later, America is 57% White and… Read more »
“The point is to reveal organized Jewry as a world power entrenched in every country of the White man’s world, operating freely across every nation’s frontiers, and engaged in a ruthless war for the destruction of them all.”
William Hayley Simpson
“Which way Western Man”
John Kerry, just last week at the World Economic Forum, so clearly blurting out the truth: “Our First Amendment stands as a major block to our ability to be able to hammer [disinformation] out of existence”.
Wonder what race John Kerry is?
lol.
Every….Single….Time….
“We don’t vote or get involved in politics”
Well, that’s amazing, because America wouldn’t exist if Christians didn’t get involved in politics.
But, then again, women weren’t teaching in churches in 1776, as they are today.
When women are out of their place. Marriages, churches, and nations will be disabled.
And both parties are controlled. Jew communists run the Democrats and Jew Zionists run the Republicans.
Lyrics to “Stand up to Jewish Hate” from Catholic State on Rumble. Lyrics: With Kabbalistic magic they sedate the state, into satanic slumber as they lie in wait, to bring in their Moshiach to the nation’s gate, and in the mean time murder, destruction, violate. It’s not your fate to be some Shabbos reprobate. Project overdue no time to wait. Stand up to Jewish hate. The ritual murder. The glorified perverts. The parasite kings, with scorpion stings. Humanity’s curse. They’re Lucifer’s first. Humanity’s virus. The demon’s night child. How can it be always them? Stand up so it won’t be… Read more »
A pretty profound look at the disaster of women being in leadership roles. This has been a problem in Stanton. It doesn’t matter what language is used, the Bible said it very plainly, let your women keep silent in the church, women have many times rejected God’s commands for them and caused massive chaos in marriage, in the church, and in the nation. Until there is repentance for Merie’s rebellious example and for the women who enthusiastically followed in her defiant footsteps, there will constantly be a never ending emotional case of musical chairs in Stanton. There isn’t any real… Read more »
A woman can be a great mother and a great wife, but she cannot be a great mother, a great wife, and a great teacher in Bible classes. God didn’t design the woman for all these roles.
Notice, the women in the Bible who we recall fondly were those who chose to submit to their husbands and men. We don’t happily remember any woman in the Bible who insisted on a leadership role for herself, or who taught men publicly. The woman who did this, we all know her name. Jezebel.
It is surreal that all 330 million Americans are enslaved by Talmudic Jews with the income tax and Federal Reserve, and we have leaders who REFUSE to acknowledge the problem. The problem is compounded by feminism, which fought for egalitarianism, to defy God and to make women equal with men in roles and responsibilities. This was a deliberate plan by Talmudic Jews to hijack marriages and churches. With women in leading roles, you need only deceive their emotions, and you control men and children. Since women are not attracted to men who don’t go along with their being deceived, the… Read more »
There needs to be accountability for why there was such a spectacular failure on the part of Stanton’s leadership to spot this Covid scam. This is why God warns against presumptuous leaders. They fight to be leaders, but when crisis confronts the church, they make decisions that jeopardize peoples lives and the church. How is it not perfectly obvious that it was a scam when the corrupt government orders churches and gun stores to close, but allows abortion clinics and pot clinics to stay open? The saddest part about this is there were many leaders in Stanton who lacked wisdom… Read more »
I’m sure many cult members were thrilled when there functions were shut down and or curtailed.
Great points made, and good article, Kevin! This coronavirus was an eye-opener. Time tells all tales, and indeed, the more time that passes, and the more events that happen, the more it becomes very clear, that Stanton‘s ideology that they are the only correct church, 1500 strong, in a world of 8 billion, becomes more and more incredulous. If your church was the only one on this earth, you definitely should be able to see through any scam that the world sent your way. And Stanton‘s leadership miserably failed to adequately address this coronavirus scam. Churches were shutting down, members… Read more »
The bible is a gold mine of wisdom. One metaphor for the human heart is that of a well. Some wells are full of fresh sweet water and some wells are full of salty bitter waters, and some wells are dry. Sometimes freshwater wells can be poisoned with salt water and what poisons the human heart but worldly study material? The evil eye is a metaphor for the disapproving heart and the righteous eye is a metaphor for the approving heart. Judas used the evil eye against Mary when he spoke against her annointing Christ with a very costly ointment… Read more »
God doesn’t care why people disobey. 2 Samuel [1] Again, David gathered together all the chosen men of Israel, thirty thousand. [2] And David arose, and went with all the people that were with him from Baale of Judah, to bring up from thence the ark of God, whose name is called by the name of the LORD of hosts that dwelleth between the cherubims. [3] And they set the ark of God upon a new cart, and brought it out of the house of Abinadab that was in Gibeah: and Uzzah and Ahio, the sons of Abinadab, drave the… Read more »
In the example of Uzzah being struck dead we on the surface see little of the reasoning behind such a harsh punishment for a seemingly small infraction, but upon deeper examination we see the leadership style of wicked humans in the hands of an angry God. This pattern or leadership style is seen in Acts 5:1-11 with Peter and the death of Ananias and Sapphira, in the beginning God uses fear to establish obedience amongst his followers. Do leaders today use such harsh measures against their own followers? Yes they do, but it leads to either the rebellion against and… Read more »
In the example of Uzzah their is a thinly veiled death threat. Violence in the old testament was both commanded by God and acceptable, it is metaphorically “old wine” but violence is forbidden in the new testament, a Christian is a “new bottle” and when a Christian resorts to the brutish behaviors of intimidation and violence both the christian and violent behaviors are rejected, that is broken bottle and spilled wine. The disciples told Christ once that they found someone casting out demons in his name and they forbad them but Christ reproved them saying no man can cast out… Read more »
There are three ways of thinking and there are three motivations that go with them; pride wants to look good, lust wants to feel good, and the meek want to do good. When seeking to reprove someone you would say to the arrogant that this looks bad, to the lustful you would say this feels bad, to the meek you would say this is hurtful to others and this is bad. How a leader reproves his followers tells you from which motivation he is speaking and how to respond to make the leader happy. There are eight defenses for pride… Read more »
Well it is Tuesday February the 14th 2023 and I am still alive and have not been killed like Uzzah. Extortion is defined as the practice of obtaining something through force or threats. Silence can be obtained through making death threats and as such is extortion and extortion is walking disorderly and should be withdrawn from. I use to work with a man who was extortioner in Phoenix at a company called MSC distribution who at the Wyndham hotel in metro center at a Thursday non member class threatened me saying “if you ask for overtime I am going to… Read more »
In Proverbs 8:10 Solomon gives instructions to choose edification over money and when you take this abstract principle and apply it to Judas and his betrayal you get a very clear understanding how Judas should have asked Wisdom (Christ) if what he was planning was the right thing to do or not. Many make plans about how to get money but without wisdom the money you obtain brings a curse with it. I will get all the overtime for my greedy self through the use of threat of violence and nothing bad will come with it, ask Judas how that… Read more »
Fish ponds or rivers?
To show just how blinding greed is consider that the company MSC distribution told employees that there is no raises because the company did not make a profit at the same time the warehouse man was passing out paychecks found and extra paycheck to someone that had the same last name as the owner but no one had ever heard of before and when told the owner said it was a cousin that had done some work for the company but in reality the owner and his wife were putting fake relatives on the payroll to show no profit so… Read more »
I thought it was a callphone but it was actually a beeper.
Yellow is far more clingy.
Rochester and St. Paul but not Chicago or Salt Lake City.
Part 1 This is a stubborn teaching that has persisted from the time of Merie Weis starting Stanton. This comment posted is very good, and its gladdening this is posted. It was this ‘non-violent’ resistance attitude that Tolstoy preached in Russia prior to the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, that was funded by “J****h” bankers, namely Jacob Schiff of “Kuhn, Loeb, and Co”, where he had been sent right after the Civil War with four goals. 1) Destroy Christianity (He created anti-Christian Anti-Defamation League (ADL), ACLU, and many other non-governmental organizations (NGO’s) targeting Christianity 2) Put Rothschild puppets into positions of… Read more »
Certification and the associated rates for the program will take place on the porch..
Gibeah, uzzah and Ahio.
When a leader adresses the annual meeting attendees as ‘THE CREME DE LA CREME’; the best of the best; there is a huge problem. Interesting that October’s creme de la creme can become February’s ‘dirt de la dirt’ yet the curch is required to take their counsel; never mention even one word of disagreement or dissatisfaction for fear of withdrawal. The example of Korah is NOT a scriptural reason to withdraw from a mere mortal for disagreeing with another mere mortal. Teachers are NOT Moses and do not have direct revelation but they act like they do, especially when instituting… Read more »
We had a Tuesday class and the class was about the double honor , one of the teacher ( woman) say that double honor could be ,to pay the needs of the evangelist when they got really old .The guy from the pulpit said that he wasn’t agree on that point of view because Honor is not only money . That guy was sat down from his duties as a preacher for a while because he contradicted a teacher . By the way the same contradicted teacher sat him down . I saw the pride and anger because she was… Read more »
If you take an eighty year time span and divide it up into twenty years groups you have the four seasons. 0 to 20 is the spring of life, 20 to 40 is the summer of life, 40 to 60 is the fall of life, and 60 to 80 is the winter of life. An elder would be someone in the winter of life. In northern New Mexico on the Navajo reservation they do not use the terms grandma nor grandpa but rather tribal elders. There are younger widows and there are elder widows (60 years or three score 1… Read more »
I am agree with you with the double honor but my point is the teacher was sharing her point of view , just an opinion; not a excuse to sat down a preacher because he couldn’t see it in the way that she see it . That’s oppression
It is a power game for sure and played inside the one true church. A study of psychological violence or psychological harassment reveals many of the tactics used against the unsuspecting. If you take the ten commandments and apply them to a leadership role you will see the errors. An example is the commandment thou shalt not kill, King Saul killed, King David killed, and King Solomon killed, but if you apply Luke 16:19-31 with the withholding of needed food this is murder by neglect now how many times has needed instructions been withheld by a spiritual leader resulting in… Read more »
What is psychological harassment? Challenging someone to the point of breaking them psychologically, or mentally, or emotionally. How many forms of psychological harassment are there? There are many forms of psychological harassment. What is the most common form of psychological harassment? Verbal harassment in the form of public humiliation, mockery, weaken the morale of individuals through constant criticism, and mobbing. What is mobbing? It is a collective form of psychological violence in which many individuals unite to persecute an individual by making constant negative comments, repeated criticisms or sarcasms, threats, intimidation, insinuations, attempts to humiliate, circulate false information concerning the… Read more »
To give an example of mobbing in the COC: there was a woman teacher in a Montana congregation who was not just a local teacher but a regional counselor as well who had a preacher, a single man with four daughters at that time of whom it was said that he gives great lessons but he is full of unbelief and is going to fall away any day now. I met the man one day at a meeting in southern California and told him of this and he said he had wondered why they would baptize people and at first… Read more »
Another question one must ask when being accused of wrong doing from the pulpit is when did this happen? I was constantly being reproved for things I did one time years earlier. You could do a load of laundry every now and then, which I had to wonder what they were talking about as I helped my wife around the house everyday. I have come to realize that once an accusation is found that works it will be used repeatedly whether or not it is still valid. My son, now 28 tells me that the ex-wife is complaining that I… Read more »
One of the greatest gifts I was given in the SCOC was the teaching of daily study. I still study every day and not just the Bible but people as well, to me people are just like books. I learn the beginning, the middle, and the end of a person and it reveals so much than just surface knowledge. An eclectic is a person who does not study deeply but draws from many different surface sources and many appear to have understandings but when asked the source for their knowledge or how to apply the knowledge in different areas of… Read more »
There is no such thing as private counsel with the cult. Counsel is shared and even the more so if you leave the cult.
If you’re talking about DWC being the regional counselor who fell away; she didn’t fall away; she was permanently ousted and told never to return. She had no choice in the matter of attending once this ‘punishment’ was instituted.
The title or idea of a ‘Regional counselor’, who is set up by man to have some sort of extra knowledge and understanding and must be obeyed, is erroneous and unbiblical.
Not DWC she was in Des Moines, the other wicked false female teacher was in Great Falls Montana. (BD)
Those in position of power use God to empower themselves. Some might promote themselves, some are insecure and therefore do a lot of fault-finding in others, some are exclusivist, and most are all of the above. They see themselves as the Word of God. Merie Weiss clearly saw herself at one point as pretty much the only one holding the candlestick
She sure did. What’s so dangerous is she lacked so much knowledge of Christian history and other nations, so it takes a lot of arrogance, which she liberally bestowed on her chosen few, to have the audacity to exalt your ideas and church above ALL OTHERS in a world of 8 billion. Ignorance and pride are commonly married, as the less many know, the more they think they know. It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Syndrome. That’s where people who know very little fancy themselves as experts, and those who really are experts often doubt themselves and have little confidence. There is… Read more »
So, what is spiritual abuse? It can be defined as abuse in which leaders find ways to control your life for the purpose of accomplishing their goals. I think some of us may have believed that our own goals were also being met (such as we are going to heaven), but we also know that a leader’s goal in Stanton is to make sure you believe all the same things they do and there should be no division (their goals).
Penguins and seals only.
Plandemic is right. And for those who think that Stanton is justified in obeying the lying media and government and submitting to mask mandates, getting vaccines, and suspending at least 1,000 classes and personal work events, combined, where is your justification. While many in Stanton claim they did nothing wrong, how is it right to submit to a tyrannical government that essentially ended nearly all of Stanton’s door knocking efforts with a fake virus hoax? Does anyone believe that Jesus, Paul, or any apostle would have obeyed the lying government today and allowed themselves to be silenced? And it’s the… Read more »
Quick question. Why do you call the virus a hoax? I have 4 friends who died from it. Please don’t jump all over me about this question. I really don’t understand.
No problem, great book is “Covid 19 and Agendas to come, Redpilled” by James Perloff. Hope that helps, if not, there is a useful website Henry Makow dot com. There are many more sources of those don’t help. Pretty sure it was the 5G towers behind the coronavirus. They were turned on at the same time and place the coronavirus started, Wuhan China, October 2019. We are electrical creatures, and 5G is a dangerous frequency which interferes with our bodies ability to breath. As expected, the older people and those with pre existing conditions were affected first. Consider, you cannot… Read more »
Are you ready for the third banker World War?
July 28, 1914, first day of World War 1.
7+28+19+14=68
September 1st, 1939. First day of World War 2
9+1+19+39=68
February 24th, 2022, Russia invades Ukraine
2+24+20+22= 68
China and Russia will likely team up against America.
Highly likely America will be in World War 3 in a year.
All countries are likely run by the Zionists who run Israel.
Banana bread is the most popular and delicious food and that is what they were raised on.
Guess who?
Giants are not the only truth.
Hilarious. For decades if you told truths that many female teachers didn’t like, you were called crazy and told you had lost your mind. Apparently, one has resurrected on this site. It’s pretty terrifying too. Few people have the courage to keep telling truths when highly esteemed leaders have told the entire brotherhood you lost your mind. “You’ve lost your mind” Amazing that no Godly leader in the Bible ever told anyone that. Samuel told Saul he had lost God’s support, but Saul could have still been humble and repented. There are not a few who if they don’t understand… Read more »
Most definitely an epidemic.
Exactly what the Jews are doing today. Whining about being victims, while they try to plunder and loot the entire earth. “However, this Christian opposition to racial discrimination is very skilfully utilised by the Jews; and in the shadow of the same they weld their devilish intrigues against the Catholic Church and all Christian order, by their forming the Communist system, where there is neither God nor church nor supersensual norms of any kind. As soon as they are attacked, they protest with crying lamentation and show themselves as victims of inhuman racial discrimination, only for the purpose of crippling… Read more »
Gravel and all the other things that I want to advise you on when you have the time.
They should not be made aware of any issues with your children.
1929, Jewish bankers crashed Wall Street, with their manipulation of the Federal Reserve. By removing money from circulation, and calling in loans, it brought on the crash of 1929. Afterwards, it brought on the Great Depression, where millions were pushed into joblessness and homelessness, after easy credit had been granted in the 1920’s. When Americans were nearly helpless, the Jew bankers staged Pearl Harbor, and started dumping billions of dollars into the economy again, to fund the war. Likely they controlled both sides, and were funding Germany and Russia. They gave billions in war supplies to Communist Russia at China,… Read more »
Furthermore, I would like to join you in this regard as I have been thinking about what you have done.
According to the Jewish Talmud, every woman who isn’t a Jew is a prostitute.
Their disdain towards other peoples goes so far as to assert: “What is a prostitute? Every woman who is not a Jewess.”5
And every person who isn’t a Jew is a beast.
“You, Israelites, are called men, while the peoples of the world do not deserve the name of men but that of beasts.”3
So, to Jews, the women in our families and friends are prostitutes, and all of us are beasts.
From “The Plot against the Church”
Maurice Pinay
Gathering information, valuable information and resources.
1 Samuel 15:23 or rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king What does witchcraft look like today? “We have a brother in a congregation…….” That’s what it looks like. The sentence is followed with some wrongdoing done by some Christian man in the church of Stanton. When this is done by a woman teacher, which it has been done hundreds, if not thousands, of times in Stanton‘s history, you are listening to rebellion. These are some… Read more »
How is an older woman going to instruct a younger woman to love and obey her husband, and to raise her children, of the older woman never learned herself, and isn’t practicing it? She can’t, can’t give to others what we first don’t have ourselves. Sadly, as the women in Stanton were never trained on proper submission, which means women never sharing in Bible classes, and only teaching other women in ladies classes, or teaching kids in kids classes, obeying their husbands is a very difficult task. And this leads to the lust problem in our society getting even worse,… Read more »
Merie Weiss, women teachers, and lust. There is absolutely no arguing the fact that there has never been, in the history of humanity, a time when there was more temptation for lust then exists today. Never before has the temptation for lust been so anonymous, so aggressive, so affordable, and so accessible, which are the four A’s driving the pornography industry today. Now, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out, that when man’s chances for marriage are severely decreased, that the probability that a man will fall into lust will go up dramatically. As a matter of… Read more »
Trusting in women and teachers There are very good reasons why God wanted men to be preachers, men to be teachers, men to be elders, men to be deacons, men to be bishops, and meant to be a evangelists. He did not want women for these positions for very good reasons. Why is this? Because, women’s nature is they are fickle, they are emotional, and they are very really unreliable when it comes to dealing with problems that men frequently come across. Think about it, do women really want to marry a man who constantly comes to them for help… Read more »
Church history does not start with Merie Weiss. For nearly the entire history of Stanton, the members have been taught by teachers, many oppressive ones, (because oppression is necessary to control others when you lack the moral authority, persuasion, wisdom, and knowledge to guide and convince others), that Stanton is the only church on the earth going to heaven, because the Bible says so. May it be submitted, that if the only reason you are a member of a church is because it gives you a feeling of self importance, that you are better than all other 8 billion humans… Read more »
The SCOC is true and right in their assertion to being the one true church. The Catholic church also makes the assertion that they are the one true church, and the LDS church makes the assertion that they are the one true church, and perhaps many other religions as well; so how do you distinguish who is telling the truth and who are the imposters? By their fruits you shall know them, their behaviors will identify them as either good or evil. The lack of good behaviors is the same as the lack of fruits in a thorn bush, nothing… Read more »
Anti-semitism and misogyny, words created by Jews; and parroted by mindless drones who were indoctrinated in Jew colleges. Jews infiltrated the colleges when Kaplan, the famous study guide makers of nearly all tests, was able to obtain all questions from the SAT. Jewish students easily studied and aced the test, and then took control of nearly all colleges. Six out of seven Ivy League schools have Jewish Deans. Who is the CEO of YouTube? Wojcicki, Jew. Who is the CEO of Facebook, Zuckerberg, Jew. Who are the founders of Wikipedia? Larry Sanger, and Jimmy Wales, Jews. Who are the founders… Read more »
Also, it’s a huge shock when people learn the media is owned by Jews, and has been controlled by them for at least the last 100 years. That means everything on television, everything in Hollyweird, everything in the newspaper, everything on the radio, everything on social media, everything on search engine algorithms is run by Jews. And, the Jews have targeted the black community as muscle for their Communist Revolution. Jew Communist Israel Cohen said this, “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is RACIAL TENSION. By propounding into the consciousness of the DARK races, that for centuries… Read more »
I saw the YouTube video of you being carried away by four police officers at the Vallejo city council meeting, pretty amusing I have to say. Why not attend? Simple it is to dangerous under the current leadership especially in light of the recent death threats (which is extortion) kill him like Uzzah or words to that effect. The current leader gets extremely upset whenever I edify showing that he has a hatred of knowledge. If I showed my face inside a COC how would the faithful followers react? With a funeral squad to disrupt non member funerals, what other… Read more »
With further consideration of the talk I have to say that there are things that need to be considered such as the man in Prescott valley being declared a false teacher why was he discontented with leadership? Did he suffer abuse from his father and therefore has little confidence in authority figures? With individuals who have suffered under abusive authority you cannot teach them God as the father but rather God as the son because they distrust authority. The talk was not a biblical lesson but rather he was talking about himself and drawing his judgment from his own limited… Read more »
I have to ask forgiveness in my zeal of the pursuit of sin that I went to far and expressed my discontentment with the church on several different posts and now humbly ask forgiveness for my murmuring. I do not condemn those who have sinned against me and my family though the evil be great but do pray for and ask others to pray for those who have gone astray into the paths of pride and abuse that they may see the errors of their ways and repent and confess and be forgiven.
One of the best virtues of Christianity is that of forgiveness. Those that can’t forgive spend the rest of their lives plotting revenge. They are truly miserable people holding onto grudges for their entire life even after the person who wronged them is dead and buried they still hold hatred in their hearts. How much more enjoyable is life when you can forgive and forget and move forward with you life. The teachings of Christ make life beautiful again.
In Proverbs 30:11-14 Solomon writes about a generation of wickedness. Children who would have no respect for their parents and elders but would turn against them and seek to destroy them in their weakness and perhaps old age, a generation of thorn bushes These behavioral descriptions fit the Pharisees of Christ’s day, and Christ reproved them for their devices they created to abandon their elderly parents and not provide support for them by saying it is a gift so I do not have to support my parents any more I am free of that financial burden. A thorn bush produces… Read more »
In Proverbs 1:19 Solomon writes about the leavening agent of covetousness to the sin of murder In looking for biblical examples of robbers who became murders one can find many examples like the man chosen to live over Christ, named Barabbas and of course Judas. How did Christ know Judas would be part of his murder? Judas was covetous and the Pharisees also would be part of his murder because they too were covetous. Perhaps Judas was not self aware or perhaps he was blinded by his greed but either way Covetousness is to murder what yeast is to bread… Read more »
What does the Talmud say?
Jesus and Paul were massive “anti-semites”. You should be too.
Just listened to called to contend on YouTube and found it interesting. I would say that subtility is neither good nor evil but amoral or non moral, a tool used by the wise both righteously wise and evil wise. For example Solomon wrote in Proverbs 1:8 that children should listen to their parents implying that wisdom starts in childhood and you can tell the wise from the foolish by those children who listen and those who don’t. In Proverbs 1:10-19 it tells of the recruitment efforts of the evil by the enticement of great riches but the father cautions against… Read more »
I also wanted to mention that the talk is autobiographical in that his desire started with his first kiss but that is not true for everyone. King Davids desire for Bathsheba started with seeing someone indiscreet and voyeurism is one of the paths of seduction. Instead of saying I need to keep my eyes to myself king David allowed his desire to take him down a path of self destruction. He could have said to himself that she is beautiful on the outside but a a contentious woman on the inside to discourage himself from his sin. Voyers do not… Read more »
The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present… Read more »
Dozens, if not hundreds of times, in Stanton, teachers have been withdrawn from for oppression. Now, there doesn’t seem to be any precedent for this in the New Testament, as you never see any teacher getting sat down or withdrawn from for oppression. Besides, oppression is a very subjective topic. What one person might call reasonable treatment, another may call oppression. That said, there definitely has been harsh and cruel treatment of members. But, let us consider. Since the Bible clearly tells women to be silent in churches, and the women have been violating this command routinely ever since Merie… Read more »
Fear of God, studies, women teachers The church in Stanton has, from the very beginning, stressed the importance of studying the Bible. Which is wonderful, as no other book can reform peoples lives for the better as that one can. Members of Stanton have been very diligent at studying, beginning with Merie, who is reputed to have studied 3 hours a day. It’s doubtful your average member has that much time to study, since Merie had no job, no spouse, and no children. Let us estimate each member, conservatively, studies 5 hours a week. Let us estimate there are 1,200… Read more »
There are dozens of false arguments used to justify women teachers.
Consider this: YP, the tow truck preacher approached me one day saying that a sister in the church had a specific behavior and it just wasn’t right but gave no commandment or any law rule or ordinance that had been violated then proceeded to describe this sisters behavior to me, which was my behavior. A few years later his replacement the preacher from Albuquerque did the same thing saying that a sister in the church had a certain behavior and it wasn’t right then he described my behavior to me. So who decides what a woman is in the churches?… Read more »
Consider Proverbs 5:15-17 where Solomon writing in the abstract talks about a cistern, a well, a fountain, and a river. All four are a source of water but in increasing amounts. A cistern is a storage device used to collect rainwater in the wet season and return it in the dry season. A cistern does not produce anything it only returns what is given to it. If water is used as the metaphor for knowledge then a cistern is similar to those who hear and repeat but do not study on their own to prove what they hear true or… Read more »
Knowledge is not the only metaphor for knowledge consider Proverbs 9:13 -18 where is speaks of a woman in a high place teaching that stolen waters are sweet and apply this behavioral pattern to Potiphar’s wife in Genesis 39:7-20. She was in a high place being the wife of a powerful man. She offered Joseph the sweet waters of adultery, but as Christ taught no one can love two masters for you will love one and hate the other so when forced to chose between her powerful husband and a slave who would be put to death? The wives of… Read more »
should say knowledge is not the only metaphor for water.
Roman’s 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Since asking confessions is necessary for running stop signs and red lights, what do you do if you ran the border illegally, and are here in America as an illegal immigrant? It appears many churches understand running a stop sign and running a red light is illegal, but don’t understand border hopping is illegal and a much bigger and more permanent sin. How can you take the Lords Supper if you are in… Read more »
An argument can be made, if a person is in America illegally, and they attend church, that God is allowing this to happen, leading them to America , so the church should allow members who are illegals.
If that’s true, then if you run ten red lights on your way to worship, that should be fine too, because God was leading you to church too, a bit of a difficult journey, that’s all.
In Portland confessions were being made for entering an intersection on a yellow light. How about a business owner paying an Illegal Immigrant who is his employee by check in the employee’s wives name.
Thou canst break the law on immigration and employees, that all your employees are American citizens, if thou payest thy employee in his American citizens wife’s name.
1 Opinions 18:56
Hope that helps. These scriptures are hard to find, but with the Holy Spirit and diligent study, you can find the truth.
Yes double standards do exist, take for example from the last may week talk about how careful leadership has to be with people courting but there was carefulness when the boyfriend showed up after twelve years and all of a sudden wanted to be a father and the council from leadership was if I had a father I would want to know him which opened the door to having dinner at the woman’s house with the children and as no man can have two masters so no woman can have a boyfriend and a husband. She was led straight into… Read more »
Merie’s cult will never have strong leadership. Stronger leadership sure. However, its a dead church. The teaching that they are the only true church is comical. Eyes need to be opened for members to see. Hopefully they do and will walk away from the oppressive and controlling cult.
Virtue is its own reward and vice is it’s own punishment. If you as a man enjoy looking at inappropriate images then I can tell you what the end of that path will be. Each time you give into the lust of the eye you will grow a little weaker until you are so mentally weak that you can’t stand before your enemies. When you do not stand up to your enemies they will see you as food and attack and devour you and your family. A prime example is the prattling fool who when challenged fell to the floor… Read more »
Hilarious. Go learn the First Amendment. It gives you five rights, right to grieve, right to religion, right to assemble, right to speech, and right to a free press. The fool is the one who, when confronted with evil, not only says nothing publicly, abdicating his duty as a man, but throws stones and backstabs those who do. Already known for lying on here, having slandered GP as a homosexual, thereby destroying all your credibility, but it doesn’t faze you, you are implacable, Then, you come up with the wise advice, that when confronted by four police officers, crumbling and… Read more »
Well, I love you too, and bless your heart. In Proverbs 5:15-16 it speaks of a cistern, a well, a fountain, and a river. Four stages of personal growth, the cistern is the starting point, the well is small, the fountain is medium, and the river is large personal growth. Similarly, the parable of talents is also about small, medium, and large amounts of personal growth. A well can yield either salt water or fresh; but not both, and as the wheat grows, so do the tares. A large lexicon does not show righteousness neither does self-centeredness. You assume the… Read more »
As far as your insults and false accusations they don’t bother me at all. I am well versed in emotional warfare having been married to a malignant narcissist for several years. You need to come up with some new flaming darts to throw at me, your false accusations have become cliche and as such should be forgotten. As for me though my god, whose name is Jesus Christ teaches me to pray for my enemies and to do good to those who despitefully use me and abuse me, and so I do. God hears the prayers of his people and… Read more »
As far as being universally avoided you have used that type of argument before and it is called “social proof”. I am not universally avoided so you are using false social proof which makes your argument based on faulty reasoning called a spurious argument and spurious reasoning and spurious arguments should be avoided. Men do indeed get raped by other men read the account of Sodom and Gomorrah in the book of Genesis, and a more modern day example is the prison riot in Attica NY where corrections officers were raped by inmates, yes bad men do indeed exist and… Read more »
In Duetetonomy 25:4 Moses gives a simple instruction to not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn and Paul the apostle refers to this carnal rule when explaining why spiritual leaders need financial support. God is not a hypocrite when one edifies the body of Christ he blesses that person with financial support. If you are not making enough to make ends meet then instead of working extra trying to be more edifying and see how God will provide for you. The opposite is also true that is if you are playing to much and not seeking to… Read more »
God says you don’t love me or anyone else because lying indicates hatred. You also are a massive slanderer, but when it’s written, it’s libel. Slander isn’t a commonly used word, so let’s define it. Most, if not all, evil comes from ignorance. From Webster’s 1828 Dictionary: Slander: A false tale or report maliciously uttered. and tending to injure the reputation of another by lessening him in the esteem of his fellow citizens, by exposing him to impeachment and punishment, or by impairing his means of living; defamation. slander that worst of poisons, ever finds an easy entrance to ignoble… Read more »
Projection is a terrible self deceit. Instead of taking responsibility for one’s behavior a guilty person will project their faults and sins upon others. Seems so wise to the untrained eye. I do applaud that you are starting to use the scriptures for faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God, maybe there is hope for you soul yet. Let’s address your licentiousness; That is: your public sex talk. Sex is always a private matter and when made public it is profaned, which it should never be. You posting your sexual fantasies which is open to the public… Read more »
Incredible. Caught in another lie, and you naturally deflect. We are not discussing anything, including more slander from you when you were just given the definition of slander until you admit you have lied many times on here; and agree to stop doing it. Speaking with serial liars is an exercise in futility. Your kind is implacable. You get caught in obvious public sins, and you seek to justify yourself by creating faults about others and slandering them. You are a wicked liar, and until you admit that, we aren’t talking again. Kevin should have blocked you long ago; free… Read more »
You can’t destroy my self esteem, remember I was under the tow truck preacher for 3 years and suffered his overreacting to the smallest gnats. My self esteem come from knowing and obeying God’s law not from anyone’s opinion of me either good or bad. Your angry attitude indicates your inability to reason and reliance upon an emotional argument, which seems plausible at first but under closer examination proves impractical therefore your emotional argument is a specious argument and is easily dismissed. You falsely accuse me of lying but never mention the specific lie, a broad generalization which is easily… Read more »
As far as the false accusation against me about leadership being homosexual let’s examine that. A statement was made that the reason the bread is not broken more than once is because it leads to sodomy, that statement is sex talk that is it is licentiousness. Who would willingly follow a licentious man? He can not stand before our common enemy Satan and protect the flock because he is weak spiritually and the flock is left unprotected from the filth that Satan and those who personify him, and spread like a river of sewage into the minds of the meek.… Read more »
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The word “Pride” appears exactly three times in the New Testament. It is never used in the Bible to reference someone telling the truth. Of the 40+ times the word appears in the Old Testament, 12-20 are describing very evil men, wholly given over to wickedness. You never find a righteous man in the Bible, telling the truth, getting into trouble for his pride. Often, those who call out the pride in others, are merely protecting their own. The objective truth isn’t dependent on age, it isn’t dependent on experience in the church, it isn’t dependent on roles in the… Read more »
The word “Pride” appears exactly three times in the New Testament. It is never used in the Bible to reference someone telling the truth. Of the 40+ times the word appears in the Old Testament, 12-20 are describing very evil men, wholly given over to wickedness. You never find a righteous man in the Bible, telling the truth, getting into trouble for his pride. Often, those who call out the pride in others, are merely protecting their own. The objective truth isn’t dependent on age, it isn’t dependent on experience in the church, it isn’t dependent on roles in the… Read more »
Further, the word “proud” appears 6 times in the New Testament, and of those six, half are in listings of very bad sins, where men have no intention of changing. Pride is having a high opinion of oneself, and it is always pride to oppose one who tells the truth, no matter what their background or station in life may be. God often works with flawed men to tell truth. A good story about that. “Wishing to encourage her young son’s progress on the piano, a mother took the small boy to a Paderewski concert. After they were seated, the… Read more »
Lastly, the roles for the genders were established in Creation. All of those who work to subvert those roles, and to elevate the woman to an equal status with the man, attacking the order God himself established for marriage and church, are fighting against God, the Creator. They may succeed for a season, but, no one opposes God’s order without serious harm and destruction to themselves. Despite the massive good Merie did, she neglected the basic role for women that God designed. No matter what errors were present in the church, it wasn’t her place to correct them. She was… Read more »
What good did Merie do?
Without her influence, many of our parents would have never met, and over half the children born in Stanton never would have been born. Her stances opposing the vices of promiscuity, alcohol, drugs, television, abortion, homosexuality, and birth control are views held by less than 10% of the churches in America today. Unfortunately, as Ecclesiastes 10:1 states, a little folly ruins a lot. Especially when that folly isn’t recognized and repented of. [1] Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and… Read more »
I agree God did establish roles for each gender and responsibilities for each as well. When men fail to fulfill their responsibilities, the burden becomes double on the women and children. The double burden does not destroy the women and children but it in fact makes them stronger. Why listen to a man who does not provide financial support nor spend time fathering his children? Why listen to a spiritual father who also neglects his responsibility to feed the flock? When the women rise up is it not because the men have failed them? A commandment that needs to be… Read more »
Hello Arizona, what did you not understand about what I said before? Why don’t you go somewhere else on the website and comment to your heart’s content? You are not wanted, you are a liar, and until that changes, no one is addressing your nonsense. Never in my life have I encountered a serial liar who refuses to be quiet and insists on shoving his unwanted, ahistorical, uninformed, inconsiderate, foolish opinions into everyone else’s conversation. For over ten years, you have filled this website with lies, half-truths, and bullheaded, stubborn, and poorly-researched opinions. No wise person wants to deal with… Read more »
Has anyone here watched ‘Shiny Happy People’? It’s a documentary on the Duggar family (19 Kids and Counting) and Bill Gothard, the man who started the Institute for Basic Life Principles, known as IBLP, and the homeschool curriculum ATI. Advanced training Institute.
I’ve read a lot about it; Twitter was full of the Godless heathens praising it to justify their wicked lifestyles. This appears to be more proof of why no one should own a Jewvision. Television has been controlled by Talmudic Jews from the time it was invented, in the early 1900s, along with the radio, invented in 1918, and Hollyweird. Small wonder it has promoted perversion and constantly attacked the family and the Christian church. Consider, since 1980, have there been any television shows or movies showing a wife staying home and having as many children as she can have… Read more »
Again, your only tactic is to blame all evil in the world on Jewish people. It’s a tired ploy on your part, and the endless, seething antisemitism you hold deep in your heart (and display here with minimal provocation) would be laughable if it wasn’t part of a dangerous racism which seeks to slander Jews as some sort of monolithic, sinister, world-controlling cabal. And you continue to do this with zero proof or evidence, except for some rabid and debunked screeds you repeatedly cite and use as your references. Do you not remember that Jesus Christ Himself was a Jew?
Jonathan Greenblatt, is that you?
The church of Christ produces two types of people: Christians and anti-Christians. From the beginning there was Cain and Able, Jacob and Esau, and many others; all examples of Christ and Satan, and today is no different. My first teacher was an extortioner, he liked to scream, insult, belittle and mock me and others and was praised as a great preacher. He did not help anyone but rather made our life more difficult with his never-ending demands upon our time and financial resources. He was an anti-Christian. The prattling fool made the local news in Sacramento a few weeks ago… Read more »
The individual from Vallejo uses victimhood as his sheep’s clothing for when has a victim ever done anything wrong? Behavioral analysis reveals not a sheep but a wolf. The level of aggression he displays toward those who disagree with him reveals not a sheep but a predator. He has made anonymous death threats against women who disagree with him and when questioned about it he does not deny it but deflects the question. What kind of man threatens women? Is this form of extortion acceptable behavior for a self-professed Christian man? He is just another bully of the weak who… Read more »
“Behavioral analysis,” more absurdities from that Jew fraud Freud. Poor Arizona had his mind warped by college and may never recover. I don’t put up with willful ignorance. No righteous person in the Bible did. Liars and those who are lazy thinkers are to be dismissed quickly. On the internet, it’s not easy to get rid of your nonsense, but in real life, I avoid your type like the plague. It’s a tremendous waste of time. You love to argue, love to talk, but hate to listen and hate to learn. It’s hard to do the work to find the… Read more »
Sea shells feel free from America.
Thank you for that, CNN. Now go research Leo Frank. The entire purpose of the internet was to create tens of millions of unthinking mindless drones like you. Sorry to say it. You’re already an incorrigible liar, but you keep getting deceived anew every day. And you never admit you’re lying or your gross ignorance. And, while you engage in folly of monumental proportions, you project and call others fools. Having already refuted hundreds of your erroneous points, it’s necessary to do it again; every day, you have more errors to refute. This is what happens when you are a… Read more »
I forgive you, my son. My compassion and forbearance run deep, and despite your viciousness and shrill, shrieking fraud, I love you, for you are a child of the Creator, and in your willful blindness, you have doubly sealed the scales against your eyelids. It is mercy and pity I have for you. I do love you, sir. May you one day come to the light and join us.
Nothing I said needs forgiving. You need forgiveness for your constant lying. That you arrogantly call me “my son”, is just incredible. I am no son of yours, but as a liar, you are the son of the devil. Lecturing everyone else on pride, yet parading on here as if you are some compassionate Pope. You keep lying then pretending you are full of love. You are a disgusting and deceived fraud. You don’t love others when you are constantly lying. Learn to love God and truth. This is your usual gaslighting. When blasted for your lies and falsehoods, you… Read more »
You now may be on the radar of certain JDL-affiliated shadow agents, I heard a guy say once. I heard another guy say that they monitor those who are overtly antisemitic. This is all hearsay, of course, but some folks are on lists, and they know their comings and goings, and especially those who promulgate antisemitism. That’s what I heard a guy say once.
You are a weak man pleaser, and fear man. This is why people like you are cowards in public, because you are terrified of man that will die. You are an idolater. You quote the Bible constantly, but when it comes time to tell the truth and to trust in God, you are missing in action, trembling in a cave somewhere, like Saul. One of my favorite verses was said yesterday. Isaiah 51 “ 12] I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die, and of the… Read more »
“Video from The Sacramento Bee shows the chaos that disrupted a Sacramento City Council meeting Tuesday when protesters clashed with an attendee who had made racist remarks during public comments the week before. A homeless advocate shouted at and pushed two people seated with Ryan Messano, the 43-year-old Solano County man who made antisemitic remarks at a previous Sacramento council meeting.” You persist with your crackpot conspiracy theories, railing against Jews at a public meeting of the Sacramento City Council; you continue to cite hate-filled, antisemitic passages from debunked tracts such as ‘The International Jew,’ by Henry Ford, himself an… Read more »
When will you learn that the newspapers, radio, television, movies, and celebrities are all controlled by Jewish bankers? Nothing has changed in the last 2,000 years, you aggressive liar. Funny how you liars are constantly fooled by other liars. You do a Google search and are duped by Suzanne’s lies. You do another one, and you are duped by the Sacramento Bee, which supports the satanic homosexual agenda. But that doesn’t bother moral midgets like you. Nothing I said was “racist,” or “antisemitic.” Jesus and Paul criticized Jews too, so it’s alright to be antisemitic. Another lie was the “homeless… Read more »
I love you, Ryan Messano, not because you’re a hate-filled, venomous, scurrilous antisemite, but in spite of it. I am exercising the godly virtues of love, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness, even as Jesus has implored us to love those who hate us. There is no point in arguing with a man who chooses to remain in the darkness, rather than accept a candle with love. It makes me sad that you continue with your infant-like tantrums, and you blame the Jewish people for all the ills of the world, and you operate from hate and fear, but it is your… Read more »
Yes, we know. “I love you”. Another of your lies. You are pathologically incapable of telling the truth. You lie, then say you love people, then lie, then say you love them again. I shudder to think what the experience of any woman was with you. To deal with a gaslighting liar like you could easily drive a woman clear over the edge. Right after your lie about “I love you”; you commence your usual malicious lying, “hate-filled, venomous, scurrilous, antisemite.”. Truly sad. I read about you as a kid, when reading about the treacherous Gollum from the Hobbit. A… Read more »
Your not arguing with me, anonymous from Arizona, but with another person, whom I do not know. I first posted on the blog in 2017 five years ago, not ten years ago. You have many opponents both here on the blog and in other places. I would ask that you reserve your hatred for me alone as I measure the amount of my righteousness by the intensity of my enemy’s hatred for me. I do love your soul which is why I reprove you as much as I do, so that by the hope of the Holy ghost you might… Read more »
Proverbs 22:9 says Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men. When a person is slothful then God sends men in the form of constant critics to reprove that person. I did not understand this for the longest time and have often been constantly criticized from all different directions. In the SCOC I was constantly criticized for everything carnal and spiritual and both scripturally and unscripturally, and thought at the time that this is just a toxic church full of negative people. However, after I stopped attending the… Read more »
Proverbs 14: [25] A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies. Here we see you are a deceitful witness, and you don’t deliver any souls. Isaiah 9: [15] The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. This is why you are so contemptible, liars are always the tail, looked down on by everyone of substance. Isaiah 59 [3] For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. [4] None calleth for justice, nor any… Read more »
Lying is a form of terrorism, it is hatred. And it discombobulates. I believe you’ve been lying on here for the history of the website, but perhaps I’m wrong, maybe it’s five. It’s impossible to keep track of all your lying, as you tell too many to catalog. Every day, you are on to new lies. You hate learning and listening, as stated before, have little to teach, besides perverted snatches of scripture, and you accept the lying media that promotes the greatest evils as truth. You are a badly deluded man, yet, you exert the energy of a fanatic… Read more »
I love you, Ryan. The slings and arrows you continue to hurl at me do not dissuade me, my child. I am praying for you, with love, hope, and righteous fervor. You continue to harp on anyone who disagrees with you or calls out your errors by calling them liars – and quite creatively, I daresay! However, in the field of psychology (which perhaps is a pseudo-science), what you are doing in such knee-jerk fashion is called “projection,” whereby you project outward against all of your perceived foes, the very quality which is at the core of your own psyche,… Read more »
No, Arizona, you don’t love your own soul, and you definitely don’t love me. Until you learn the humility to stop lying, as lying is another sign of pride, you are rejected by God and all who uphold Gods truth. “My child”, “son”, incredible arrogance and impudence. In the midst of a sea of ignorance and lies, you honestly view yourself as a loving Father. Truly tragic. In your prayers, please include prayers that God would open your blinded eyes and help you to stop lying daily. It’s a tough habit to break. You’ve not refuted a single fact I’ve… Read more »
Perhaps it is time that you reevaluate the premise upon which you base your mode of thinking, for it is like, to paraphrase Oz, a “clinking, clanking, clattering collection of caliginous junk!”
All facetiousness aside, methinks thou doth protest too much.
Great, you actually managed a comment without a brazen lie. Now you are into logical fallacies, which your arguments are full of. This is your ad hominem, logical fallacy. As usual, you are a moral and intellectual midget. When you aren’t lying, you are posting two sentences to vainly try to refute 10-30 indicting your lying treachery. You can learn a lot from the Oz collection. In one of the 14 masterful books by Baum, “The Lost Princess of Oz”, it tells of Ugu the shoemaker, a deceitful and wicked sorcerer. Sounds like you. You conjure up lying apparitions with… Read more »
I am curious did the Holocaust really occur in Germany in the 1940’s?
It’s good to question. Every American military conflict from the 1898 Spanish American war onwards has been instigated by, financed by, and waged for Jewish bankers. Maine incident was rigged to get America into the Spanish American war. Lusitania incident was rigged to get America into World War 1. Let’s carefully review World War 1 and the surrounding period. Early 1912, Titanic goes down, owned by Bankers pawn and Federal Reserve proponent JP Morgan. Three biggest opponents of Federal Reserve all go down with the Titanic. Strauss, Guggenheim, and Astor. November 1912, Woodrow Wilson elected President with a paltry 40%… Read more »
You didn’t answer the question. What do you think about George Lincoln Rockwell? The national alliance? The Aryan nations?
You will receive no responses to your questions until you master the basics of World War 2 history. All you are doing is using your Google search knowledge to appear intelligent. Understanding takes more work than Google searches. Your entire view of history is shaped by media, Google, and schools, which is where you got your distorted views of history from. If jumping to conclusions without careful research were an Olympic event, you’d win Gold. When you post three serious books with primary source witnesses on World War 2, and I have dozens to recommend, that you’ve read, that’s when… Read more »
“The Second World War” by Antony Beevor: This comprehensive account of World War II by renowned historian Antony Beevor draws upon a wide range of primary sources, including diaries, letters, and firsthand testimonies. Beevor provides a detailed narrative of the war from multiple perspectives, covering major events and campaigns on various fronts. “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” by William L. Shirer: This seminal work by journalist William L. Shirer offers an in-depth examination of Nazi Germany and its role in the origins and progression of World War II. Shirer, who was a firsthand witness to the events… Read more »
Great, and I enjoyed Shirer’s magnificent “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” when I read it ten years ago. Please confirm you actually read those books, and aren’t just posting them. You already admitted you only read the Bible, now you are saying you read these three books too? Which statement is true? Shirer was funded by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), formed by…wait for it..,,Jew Paul Warburg, who was also the first head of the Federal Reserve. His brother James, married Rothschild associate Jacob Schiff’s daughter, Frieda. Schiff, as mentioned many times, was sent to America… Read more »
What are you views on white supremacy?
I have read ordinary men reserve police battalion 101 as it was recommended by psychologist Jordan Peterson and it explains how to take ordinary men and turn them into blood thirsty killers through the use of group pressure. The men were recruited into what they thought was an honorable profession, that being a police officer in the occupied territories but when they arrived there the commanding officer read their orders, crying as he did so, and told his men that if any did not want to participate, they should leave right there and then and return to Germany which two… Read more »
Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, are all controlled opposition figures. They are paid to mislead conservatives. All three of them will ignore evidence when asked who controls the worlds money.
All three will lose their jobs if they tell the truth.
I’d recommend reading Myron Fagan’s “The Illuminati and the CFR” which is only 34 pages.
Read “Mein Kampf”, there are two sides to every story. 99% of Americans have never honestly considered both sides.
Besides, we never should have been in World War 2. Pearl Harbor was rigged. Hitler tried to avoid war with Britain and America.
What is your opinion of The Turner Diaries by William Pierce?
Stopped reading it when the protagonist yielded to fornication, in the beginning chapters. You like to ask questions that are loaded. All of your questions are to prove your media conditioned theory that anyone with my opinions must be a “Nazi,” and “White supremacist.” Do you agree with the media and Democrats that White Supremacy is the biggest threat to America? If so what data do you have? Do you believe systematic racism is a problem in America? If so, what data do you have? Do you believe all races can be racist? Can you please tell me what the… Read more »
What is your opinion on interracial marriage? Should black men be allowed to marry white women?
I’m afraid that is not how a conversation works, Arizona. In a conversation ideas and questions are exchanged. This is not an interrogation. I am not here to answer machine gun questions that you have for me all aimed at the same conclusion that you started with. You are not trying to acquire facts to learn, you are like a courtroom prosecutor, your questions are to prove the guilt, that you believe is there with no proof. You start with a conclusion and your questions are designed to prove your conclusion. You have it all backwards. I’d be happy to… Read more »
The sacrotic method of instruction is to lead people to a conclusion by asking questions. I am not trying to lead you anywhere as you are intractable, like most fools. It is for the audience sake that I seek to expose your sandy foundation of hatred of all others. Money too is a sandy foundation and my oh my how your joy turned to hate when your money was taken away, but in truth the hatred of all others was always there it was just masked by your love of money. I prefer to be the object of your derisions… Read more »
You are right about the Socratic method. You spelled it as well as you understand it though. To guide others to the truth with questions, you first must have rigorously questioned all your beliefs to know they are true. You DEFINITELY don’t do this. You eagerly parrot the lies the media, schools, and internet tell you. Socrates said, “I know that I know nothing.” You’d do well to imitate him. Your many lies originate from a lazy attitude towards learning, coupled with a desperate desire for respect and to be liked. This egoism is disastrous for personal relationships, as you… Read more »
Your attack on my veracity have become trite. 1000 people per hour did indeed die, the USA lost about 385 thousand in WWII, the Soviet Union lost 24 million, and many other nations lost enormous amounts of people and when averaged out comes to 1000 killed every hour quote. As far as you previous comment about not being able to maintain a relationship I have to ask how long did Merie Wiess first marriage last? How long did her second marriage last? If a woman as Holy and just like Merie Wiess could not sustain a marriage how much less… Read more »
You are a habitual liar. We will name them constantly, so you don’t forget. We will add as you tell them. Lie #1. GP is a homosexual because he warned against leaving traditions saying it may lead to acceptance of homosexuality. Lie #2, I issued death threats because some internet website says so. Lie #3, I’m affiliated with the Proud Boys. Lie #4, FROM YOUR COMMENT ABOVE, the Soviet Union had 24 million killed in the Holocaust, when only 6 million were alleged to have been killed. You lie so much, that in about two more weeks of commenting, the… Read more »
I don’t respond to your questions as that would give you a place of superiority that you do not deserve. I was not the one posting about the proud boys, I do not know anything about them, that was another one of your critics. Why only three accusations? I thought you were smart enough to come up with at least ten. Perhaps I have over estimated your intelligence. You don’t like being called a fool as it is to harsh? Fair enough I will stop referring to you in a derogatory manner. Let’s address another one of your comments about… Read more »
As an addendum I would ask you: do you hate me yet? Do you want to kill me yet? I await your death threats as I know they will come for the unclean have no natural affection and do not seek to preserve human life which is the gift of God. Go ahead and follow the bad example of your spiritual leader and start making death threats like he did. Just remember there are no murders allowed into Heaven, and if you even hate you are the equivalent of a murderer.
Do you think me pernicious? Well maybe I am. You have not heard half of my exploits in the Phoenix congregation, so listen up and be schooled in the ways of economic warfare. We had a man, a bricklayer by trade but a handyman mostly who could not buy his fellowship food one Sunday so I bought it for him as he was very poor. Then we had a cab driver by trade who also could not buy his fellowship food so I bought it for him as he was very poor also. Then we had a soon to be… Read more »
Why would I hate you or wish harm on you? Your lying angers everyone you come into contact with, but it comes from your ignorance, as all evil does. You have these delusions of grandeur, where your view of yourself and how God and humanity view you are two different things. Scary, because if you go too far, you lose touch with reality, Two kinds of ignorant people. The honest and humble, and the dishonest and proud. You are definitely in the latter category. The former category is the one that gets ahead in life. The latter category is bitter… Read more »
“ I don’t respond to your questions as that would give you a place of superiority that you do not deserve.” No arrogance there. You’re saying you are too good to answer questions from people you view as beneath you. This from a man who freely comments on many topics he doesn’t research, and who hasn’t read any other book but the Bible, that he claims, yet, doesn’t even follow the Bible, as he lies frequently. Lie #5, you posted three books on World War 2, representing you read them, when asked if you read them, you didn’t respond, likely… Read more »
Good to hear you believe there are Christians outside of Merie’s cult.
I don’t agree it’s a cult. That’s a word just invented in the last century or so. People have mistaken beliefs, we all do. Spiritual pride is a powerful emotion, it was what drove the Pharisees, and it drives many religious leaders today. The Pharisees had power, and they used it to persecute Christ, who did not have the power of their organizations or traditions. But he had the power of God, which is the greatest power known to man. I have learned, whenever a man is in error, to look at him and say, “There but for the grace… Read more »
While it is important to approach discussions with respect and empathy, it is also crucial to acknowledge the harmful effects that certain belief systems and organizations can have on individuals and society. Cults, as they are commonly understood, can cause significant harm and destruction. Here are some points to consider: Manipulation and Control: Cults often employ manipulative techniques to control their members, such as isolating them from friends and family, enforcing strict rules and regulations, and using coercive tactics to ensure compliance. This control can lead to the loss of personal autonomy and critical thinking. Exploitation and Abuse: Many cults… Read more »
“While it is important to approach discussions with respect and empathy, it is also crucial to acknowledge the harmful effects that certain belief systems and organizations can have on individuals and society. Cults, as they are commonly understood, can cause significant harm and destruction. Here are some points to consider:“ You have a severe problem with reading comprehension. You have a lot of nerve too. You just completely ignored half a dozen books sent your way and were completely unable to refute dozens of facts blowing up your current belief system, and you are back on here trying to lecture… Read more »
“Your comments show you think like a woman.” It is important to recognize that making generalizations about an entire gender is unfair and can perpetuate stereotypes. People’s thoughts and perspectives are influenced by a variety of factors, including personal experiences, education, and cultural background. It is more accurate and respectful to engage with ideas and arguments rather than making assumptions based on gender. You remind me of some of the characters in the novel “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” by Stieg Larsson,” who hate women and exhibit misogyny and display a negative attitude towards women, which includes committing violence… Read more »
Men and women are not equal. God created two different spheres for us. “ It is important to recognize that making generalizations about an entire gender is unfair and can perpetuate stereotypes. People’s thoughts and perspectives are influenced by a variety of factors, including personal experiences, education, and cultural background. It is more accurate and respectful to engage with ideas and arguments rather than making assumptions based on gender.” This comment sounds like you found an AI toy and asked its opinion on my comments. Exactly the kind of deceitful trick I’d expect of Arizona. Mens and women’s bodies, brains,… Read more »
Your disturbing assertion that Adolf Hitler was misunderstood and the Holocaust did not occur is an affront to all humanity, Ryan. I must say that such a claim is not only historically inaccurate but also morally reprehensible. It is important to address this issue with the seriousness and disdain it deserves. To begin with, let me make it abundantly clear that the Holocaust is an extensively documented historical event, supported by an overwhelming body of evidence. The systematic genocide of six million Jews, along with millions of other innocent victims, was meticulously orchestrated by the Nazi regime under Hitler’s leadership.… Read more »
Hello anonymous deluded one, Let me begin by saying I apologize if you are in Stanton, because if so, I’d use a much different approach. Definitely not as harsh and severe as will follow. My name is Ryan, and thank you for the introduction, letting us all know you are a naive and gullible pawn of the lying media and schools. Thank you for not imitating Arizona and lying though, that’s a dramatic improvement. At least you stick to the “facts” you believe. You have a nasty case of cognitive dissonance and Dunning-Kruger. About five rounds in a decent and… Read more »
I must address your assertions, though I am deeply concerned about the tone and content of your message. It is important to approach discussions with respect and a commitment to evidence-based reasoning. Let’s examine your points: Your ad hominem attacks and derogatory language towards me and those who disagree with you do not contribute to a constructive conversation. Resorting to insults undermines your argument and demonstrates a lack of willingness to engage in meaningful dialogue. The claim that I am a “naive and gullible pawn” of the media and schools is baseless. It is essential to critically evaluate information from… Read more »
“ I must address your assertions, though I am deeply concerned about the tone and content of your message. ” You should be more concerned about truth and what God thinks. If you saw the destructive future your beliefs lead to, you’d be frantically thanking me. As for content, how are you concerned about it? You clearly didn’t thoroughly examine it, as six books were posted, and you clearly hadn’t read one of them before, and you definitely haven’t read them since the comment was posted. So you are demonstrating the same lazy thinking that got you into this predicament,… Read more »
Go ahead, keep on setting up your strawman arguments for me, and I will continue to knock them down with the sword of truth.
Are you a comedian? You haven’t answered any questions posted to you, you’ve ignored dozens of facts, being incapable of refuting a single one, you’ve ignored half a dozen books, and 60+ more on my website destroying your ideas, you haven’t posted A SINGLE FACT opposing any of my assertions, and you think you are wielding the “Sword of Truth”? I’ve never used drugs or alcohol, I’d like to know about your use of drugs and alcohol, because you’d have to be high as a kite to think as you do. 100 years ago, people who thought like you were… Read more »
Edited comment. Hello, anonymous deluded one, Let me begin by saying I apologize if you are in Stanton because if so, I’d use a much different approach. Definitely not as harsh and severe as will follow. My name is Ryan, and thank you for the introduction, letting us all know you are a naive and gullible pawn of the lying media and schools. Thank you for not imitating Arizona and lying though; that’s a dramatic improvement. At least you stick to the “facts” you believe. You have a nasty case of cognitive dissonance and Dunning-Kruger. About five rounds in a… Read more »
An insight has begun to form and crystallize in my mind now: If the following supposition is true; “Jealousy seeks to possess, whereas envy seeks to destroy.” Then it must follow– Ryan, being a bachelor, and yet who yearns for a wife, seeks to silence and punish all women because he lacks one. He cloaks his assertions and hostility behind a veil of biblical understanding, declaiming categorically that women are the scourge of Stanton, or any other church, and yet he is blind to the nature of his own motivations. My pity, love, and compassion for him now has increased… Read more »
Thank you, anonymous AI imitator. You are a master of projection. Being accused of envy and jealousy a few days ago, you turn around and fling it right back out. A determined charlatan, that’s for sure, “ Ryan, being a bachelor, and yet who yearns for a wife, seeks to silence and punish all women because he lacks one. ” If this is Arizona, this will be lie #10. I am happy married and happy single. I am impervious to strong desires either way. I prayed God would send me a beautiful, wise, submissive, industrious, and virtuous wife, and he… Read more »
There are several versions of Mein Kampf which one have you read? The original one in German is filled with anti semitic comments ( Which Franklin, who spoke and read fluent German had a copy of in the oval office) or the latter sanitized version which were in English and had the anti semitic writing removed?
Kevin’s website won’t post my response to you, so I posted it on my website. Frustrating that dozens of comments aren’t posted for no discernible reason. If you can’t read it, I’ll email you if you give your email.
Well said.
Who is the ‘we’ you refereed to in your prayer? You’re fortunate to have had a wonderful experience being raised in Stanton but don’t assume everyone experienced what you did.
Are you aware of the child abuse practiced in Stanton? Maybe you and your siblings weren’t subjected to being tied to your beds to prevent masterbation but there are readers of this blog that witnessed or were subjected to that form of abuse. Speak for yourself.
The vast majority of kids in Stanton. The excessive overreaction to masturbation is precisely what would be expected in a church run by women and started by a woman. It is evil, always has been, and always will be. But contrast the Bible dealing with this Vice with Stanton’s. 1 Peter 2:9-11 9] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: [10] Which in time past were not a people, but are now… Read more »
Falling asleep in my opinion is completely different than what you are doing.
Did you misplace your directions to the Funny Farm?
Because you’ve come to the wrong place with your kindergarten antics.
Unfortunately we will not be able to pick up the carrots.
Friendship is always going to have kids need their own life lessons and such as their children will amount to.
Just finished listening to the late great university of Oklahoma professor J. Rufus Fears excellent overview of Euripides play “Medea“. This is from one of his great courses called “Life Lessons from the Great Books”. He also has many other wonderful lectures, including “Famous Romans“, And “Famous Greeks“. The lesson from this play is that terrible things happen when women are given power in nations, families, and in churches. Lori Alexander, the wonderful teacher, at “The Transformed Wife“, just wrote this excellent column, which dovetails nicely with that lesson. Gods description of a godly woman. God’s description of a godly… Read more »
I’m confused. You, a man, are being taught by Mrs.
Alexander and promoting her teaching to males who read this blog. How is that okay?
She teaches wives ought to obey their husbands and that women should not be speaking publicly in the churches. That is straight from the Bible, though it, unfortunately, has never been taught in Stanton. Women can speak during prayer requests, request songs, sing songs, teach ladies’ classes and children’s classes. That is the sphere women magnificently existed in for 1,960 years of Christian history, before Merie came on the scene, who, it must be confessed, was severely historically illiterate and turned nearly 2,000 years of Church obedience to God’s role for the women, right on its head. Men ought to… Read more »
Mrs. Alexander is speaking publicly on YouTube, on her website and in her book. Both women and men are reading her material and are being taught by her. Are her actions permissible by God because men can be taught by a woman as long as it’s outside of the church assembly?
She is, and she’s making it clear she’s speaking only to a female audience. She states that many times.
If men want to listen, to learn what a submissive woman should be, they are welcome to.
We learn from submissive women in the Bible too.
Big difference between women speaking to women and children on YouTube, and women speaking in a public assembly in church.
Ryan, I’ve got quite a few questions so I am going to write them all in this one post. 1. How should Merie have handled her numerous disagreements with the church? 2. Based on your answer to my question about Mrs. Alexander teaching the principles of Biblical womanhood in a public space where men and women have full access to her teaching, could a man attend a ladies’ Bible study to glean a female teacher’s wisdom? Let’s even say Mrs. Alexander teaches a ladies Bible class on Biblical womanhood in your congregation, could you sit in the class to listen… Read more »
Thank you for your questions; they are intriguing. 1) That is an excellent question, and it has puzzled me. Merie does have legitimate points. The paid preacher system obviously has major flaws. Not sure that the prosperity preacher system of today was as pronounced back then. What we find in the Bible is men who travel frequently were paid by the churches, which is not the practice of today’s church. That said, we must be fair. It’s a far different world. There was no income tax in the days of the New Testament, and they didn’t have women in the… Read more »
Still true today!
A reminder that the overlap between satanists, pedophiles, the aggressive champions of trans and LGB ideology and the most fiercely and proactively antiWhite folks, is near total.. and still rapidly converging.
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90% of Americans, and “Christian’s” have this problem.
Unfortunately, your shameful affiliation with the Proud Boys negates your arguments, since, as a member of this far-right, male-only organization that has gained attention and notoriety for its extremist views and involvement in violent incidents. There are several reasons why the Proud Boys are considered a problematic organization: Extremist Ideology: The Proud Boys espouse a white nationalist and Western chauvinist ideology that promotes the idea of male superiority and opposes multiculturalism. Their beliefs are rooted in divisive and exclusionary principles that run counter to the principles of equality, diversity, and inclusivity. Violence and Street Brawls: The Proud Boys have a… Read more »
You were doing pretty good there for awhile, you avoided your pathological lying, evil surmising, and jumping to conclusions. But an evil heart simply has to vent, and here you are again, after dozens of false accusations and lies, you fall right back into your old habits. After these lies, you’ll assure us how much you love people, and how you’re praying for us, and how we should just listen to your “rebukes”. Again, why don’t you keep your lying mouth shut, you treacherous serpent, and answer the questions posed to you, think about them, consider them, then respond. You… Read more »
All readers can learn from our wayward deceived pawn of the media, Arizona. He is demonstrating what happens when you think you are a servant of God, but are a poor researcher, and you don’t understand internet algorithms are designed to deceive. He is showing his newspapers, television, and radio are to be intensely distrusted, as they frequently lie, through omission or commission. If you aren’t careful, and you listen to the schools and media, you will be transformed into a hateful pawn of theirs, trained to carry out the satanic agenda of their owners. You will also become a… Read more »
I must express my deep concern and disappointment with your statement, as it is riddled with baseless assumptions, conspiracy theories, and a complete lack of evidence. Your sweeping generalizations and unfounded accusations are not only intellectually dishonest but also perpetuate harmful stereotypes and divisive rhetoric. Firstly, your claim that internet algorithms are designed to deceive is a gross oversimplification and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how algorithms function. While it is true that algorithms can influence the content we see online, they are not inherently deceptive. They are designed to personalize content based on user preferences and behavior, aiming to… Read more »
“ I must express my deep concern and disappointment with your statement, as it is riddled with baseless assumptions, conspiracy theories, and a complete lack of evidence.” Thank you, CNN, the feeling is mutual. You don’t cite any new facts, and you ignore a host of facts and books that the media has carefully hidden from you. Whether you have the courage to explore knowledge you’ve been trained to eschew will determine your destiny. With your current proud, haughty, and lazy attitude, you will never find the truth. I believed as you believed just five years ago, but I patiently… Read more »
“ I must express my deep concern and disappointment with your statement, as it is riddled with baseless assumptions, conspiracy theories, and a complete lack of evidence.” Thank you, CNN; the feeling is mutual. You don’t cite any new facts, and you ignore a host of facts and books that the media has carefully hidden from you. Whether you dare to explore knowledge you’ve been trained to eschew will determine your destiny. With your current proud, haughty, and lazy attitude, you will never find the truth. I believed as you believed just five years ago, but I patiently examined the… Read more »
Oppression: To load or burden with unreasonable impositions; to treat with unjust severity, rigor or hardship; as, to oppress a nation with taxes or contributions; to oppress one by compelling him to perform unreasonable service. It would be supposed that one who has been oppressed would learn not to oppress others. But, frequently, we see those who are oppressed turn around and oppress others. One way to oppress others is to constantly misrepresent what they do, to portray what they do in the worst light, to fault find, to lie about them, and to search their life for wrongdoing to… Read more »
Equality and human rights: In modern society, gender equality is widely recognized as a fundamental human right. It means that all individuals, regardless of gender, should have equal opportunities and rights, including access to education and employment. Abilities and qualifications: A person’s ability to teach should be based on their qualifications, skills, knowledge, and experience, rather than their gender. Competence in a subject matter and effective teaching methods are more important factors in determining someone’s suitability as an educator. Benefits of diverse perspectives: Having a diverse range of teachers, including both men and women, can enrich the learning experience for… Read more »
Thank you for that leftist communist drivel, Arizona. You certainly are dedicated to your lies and fairytales. This is the feminist communist ideology designed to turn America into a weak, androgynous, supine, and helpless nation. Only the simple and corrupt are deceived by it. And you’ve been earnestly working to prove to everyone on here your naïveté and corruption for the last five years. It appears out of desperation, you’re lying having been so thoroughly exposed, you’ve resorted to an AI machine to help you. You should have been banned from this site long ago, and if Kevin was doing… Read more »
Ryan, I grow weary of your baseless accusations and strident mockery. When flummoxed and check-mated, YOU are the one who lies, makes false accusations, and casts aspersions on your perceived “enemies,” such as anyone on this site who disagrees with you or dares to call you out on your rabid antisemitism and lunatic fringe conspiracy theory blather. And DS committed Food Stamp fraud while in Arizona, by the way. Good day, comrade.
Good, my accusations aren’t baseless, your constant lying is an affront to every righteous person, and God and other righteous people are fed up with it. You can take your rodeo somewhere else, it isn’t wanted anywhere good people are. I see you are committing lie #12, libeling DS as you do practically everyone you come into contact with. After all your lies on here, I don’t believe a word you say. “flummoxed and check-mated.” Your lying is definitely frustrating, lying always is, and you’ve committed lie #13, saying I’m the one lying when not one thing I’ve said on… Read more »
Hey, Mr. Wizard, seeds don’t “die,” they germinate. You must resist the urge to conflate poetic imagery with scientific fact. However, as one with no formal education, my confidence isn’t high that you will be able to do so. Metaphors, parables, and analogies escape you, and you filter everything through a lens of hyper-literalism. You fear and condemn that which you don’t understand. Unable to comprehend the deeper meaning and wisdom of what you read, you embark reflexively upon jeremiads of damnation and judgement. But I forgive you. And together, it is my hope that we can reconcile our polarized… Read more »
Kevin’s Website once again malfunctions. Won’t post my comment. It’s on my website.
Too bad his website doesn’t do it’s job. If it had all of Arizona’s lies and delusions would’ve been banned long ago. Truly a disgrace.
You can find it under, “ Response to a deceived and lying college graduate fraud from Arizona”
I am asking for a show of hands by clicking the plus sign at the end of this post if you want Ryan to be removed from this site. Ryan please take your never-ending and off topic posting elsewhere. If anyone wants to read all of his weird opinions please send him your contact information so we don’t have to be subjected to this nonsense.
Sorry, it’s July 4th, and you never learned basic history of America. The less people know, the easier it is for tyrants like you to silence truths you don’t like. “ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” First Amendment The right to speak was given by God, though it wasn’t intended for lying, willful ignorance, or those who try to silence… Read more »
I, for one, do not want Mr. Vallejo removed from the blog as he is more entertaining than any episode of the Jerry Springer show! Let’s examine equity and the teaching of “how much of your money is for the brethren?” The original teaching came from one poor evangelist against another rich evangelist, the rich evangelist worked as a construction manager and got a 25k bonus for completing a job while the salary of the poor evangelist at the time was 20k a year and so it has been said that the rich evangelist could, with his bonus alone support… Read more »
Thank you for that, Arizona, though Free speech is not subject to any one’s approval or disapproval, as long as it avoids lying, gossip, profanity, obscenity, vulgarity, and racial slurs. It was designed for righteous, wise, and virtuous people, not for people who have no self control. If all 8 billion humans on earth don’t like what any human has to say, then they don’t have to listen to it, but they cannot interfere with the human’s right to say it. “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to… Read more »
How did DS commit food stamp fraud?
None of your business, you gossipy busybody.
You overlook Arizona’s many lies to try to gather dirt on someone you dislike.
No wonder you want me silenced.
Ha gossipy busybody fits as part of a description of members of the SCOC also known as members of Merie Weiss Cult.
Well, when women have been trained to leave their roles by the sadly misguided Merie, what can we expect? Men’s weakness is frequently lust, women’s weakness, as they adore communication and relationships, is gossip. It can easily be fixed, but it will be difficult to overcome nearly a century of feminist brainwashing. Women have a lot of wisdom, but if God wanted them judging church business and church decisions, he would have made it very clear. Instead, he twice commanded that women were to be silent in the churches, and there are no exceptions. Women can ask prayers, sing, and… Read more »
It wasn’t just the women. Men were guilty as well. Snake Martin the preacher in Portland was on top of the leader board with being a gossipy busybody. The cult teaches against it yet are guilty of it. Hypocrites.
To be fair to him and every man in Stanton, every man who entered Stanton was under a woman’s jurisdiction. Not sure of all the particulars of your differences with him, but I do know he’s a devoted husband, dedicated father, committed business owner, and a righteous man. We definitely differ on politics and a woman’s role, but that’s to be expected, and I thought the exact same way as all the men in Stanton do towards politics and women’s roles just 15 years ago. However, in an age where 90% plus of men are engaged in one or more… Read more »
The time I spent with Snake Martin from 1997-2017 and 2009-2015 helping him with preaching responsibilities come to find out as a non member of the cult. Non of the above of your perception of him applied. A charmer for sure and some how in the good graces with the cults top “leadership”. I know too much about him and what had taken place with the Portland congregation not only from what I saw and heard but also from many sources. Low praise at best he deserves. You know my email address. I can explain in detail when I’m able… Read more »
Mr. Crumb peddler from Arizona never alleged that DS had committed food stamp fraud that was someone else on this blog. I objected to his demanding the Phoenix congregation to give an extra 2500.00 over and above what the evangelist had asked for; regarding a vehicle purchase of 3500.00 saying that we should give the full amount because “we can” and the resulting evangelist going soft on the sins in the Phoenix congregation. The evangelist needs to be financially supported, and 3500.00 is a reasonable amount to ask for but limits should be set that no one should accept more… Read more »
If anyone would like to understand how dangerous and damaging the schools and colleges are, simply review our friend Arizona’s remarks from the last five years. Full of lies, misunderstandings, ignorance, envy, pride, and virtually every one of the seven deadly sins. He doesn’t realize he was trained to be a victim. The reason he has failed so much in life, and will continue to do so is because he’s been trained all his life, “White People” are the problem, and of course, the church, and anyone else who disagrees with the silly ideas he was indoctrinated with. We all… Read more »
On the metaphorical piano, Ryan Messano plays only one note…over and over. And. Over. And. Over. You get the point. His “Broken Record” technique might be amusing, if it weren’t so tiresome. He seems to believe (or perhaps has a more craven motive) that if he continues to repeat his opinions ad infinitum, they will become true, or be regarded as true, through some magical alchemy or erroneous calculus. By calling his opponents liars, he seeks to stop the conversation or dialogue, and thus place himself in the position as the final arbiter of truth. Truly a “One-Trick Pony.” His… Read more »
Yes, you are right and wrong. I do play one note, it’s called truth, and it grates on the ears of liars like you. What’s incredibly interesting to you is your Google searches, your false prophets in the media, and your college degree indoctrination. That’s what catches your easily deceived attention. You kick up a massive protest over the truth that gives you cognitive dissonance. Still doing it after years; it takes a long time to overcome a lifetime of indoctrination. But be of good cheer; your example is teaching hundreds of others. You keep attacking my opinions when you… Read more »
Well said Anonymous, I couldnt agree more. I cringe as I know his reply to your criticism of him will be one note, poorly played, irrational, mean spirited, and never ceasing. I’m interested in rereading some of Kevin’s blog posts that were written 10 years ago and discussing some of those topics.
Thank you, Striped Fish; I empathize with any preacher who had to deal with Arizona. What a nightmare. A serial liar who evil surmises, murmurs, gossips, and has few moral standards to speak of but carefully tries to find others’ weaknesses. Frustrating to deal with a liar who refuses to research, answer questions, or tell the truth, but if I don’t address him, he runs wild on here, as Kevin is unfortunately asleep at the wheel and is allowing Arizona to run roughshod making it much more complicated than it needs to be. Sad, because if Arizona would just listen,… Read more »
You are sadly mistaken if you thought I was adressing you Ryan. Don’t think for a minute my comment was meant for you. I was agreeing with the person you call Arizona after he/she described your ridiculous overthrow of this comment section as a metaphorical one note piano. This is Kevin’s blog, not Ryan’s blog. Fill your own blog with your ideals until your heart is content. Please be aware, your ideals may have become your idols. Something to think about.
I’m not here for the praise of ahistorical types. I expect your massive opposition. Your criticism of me, “ one note, poorly played, irrational, mean spirited, and never ceasing,” correctly applies to Arizona, but your feelings have overwhelmed your reason, so you use these words you don’t understand against me. Who knows, you could be Arizona, he’s one massive liar, no one knows who’s who on here. Besides, who are you and what have you ever done that anyone should value your opinion? We clearly see you don’t understand words you use and use them carelessly. People like you and… Read more »
I agree why stay anonymous. What do you fear? Let it be known who stands against them. Hopefully the brain washing that it’s a sin to read this blog isn’t the cause of the many anonymous.
Craig, your withdrawal, after being considered a nonmember, for the crime of writing on this blog, gives me a reason to write anonymously.
It’s a hideous abuse of power for leaders to make up rules and judgements in order to silence people and potentially destroy families.
Okay, I understand and respect that answer. Yes you did nail it on the head, silence people and destroy families which is exactly what they do.
Anonymous protects the children from prosecution for the fathers debates. Also realize that this is a public blog which anyone can read and then be offended and go and search out any poster for retribution. There are many crazies in this world, one must always be careful.
I understand your position.
The wicked always are fearful.
Lying Arizona and his supporters have a lot to be afraid of.
Ryan, the door was opened last year at the annual meeting to discuss women’s roles in congregational assemblies. Their conclusion was that the way the understanding of the role of women has been in the past is the way it will remain. From my understanding you were recently withdrawn from for heresy for your writings on Kevin’s blog, even though you did so anonymously.
You are mostly right. The unprecedented and totally unscriptural step was taken to discuss the question of women teachers at the October Trip, which appears to have been scrambled hurriedly, primarily to address Joe Goutreau and the issue of women teachers. With the leading teachers all united on defending women teaching men in Bible classes, in direct opposition to two plain commands in the New Testament for women to remain silent in the churches, this created a menacing environment for anyone to even think about questioning this teaching. I’d researched it extensively about three years ago and had come to… Read more »
You flatter yourself, sir. As Humphrey Bogart’s character says to Ugarte in ‘Casablanca,’ upon being asked if he despises him, “I probably would, if I gave you any thought.” Apoplectic over what you posit to be historically accurate? Hardly. Rather, it is more a sense of morbid curiosity about a man who went down a rabbit hole and never came back, but who bellows up at the surface world all of the questionable “knowledge” he believes he has gained, while wearing it like a meretricious exoskeleton which neither protects nor advantages him. Two friendly suggestions: 1) endeavor to find your… Read more »
Once you correct your 14+ lies, and actually learn how to debate, which means addressing ALL the oppositions questions and points, you’ll be taken seriously.
Also, when you learn to stop being an intellectual fraud, plagiarizing book reviews to lie and say you’ve read books, and brazenly posting books you’ve never read.
That anyone on here takes your side after all your lying is a sign we are in a corrupt and ignorant world.
Two friendly recommendations:
1) Correct all your catalogued past lies.
2) Stop bearing false witness.
Again, you are dealing with someone other than the crumb peddler from Arizona.
Sure, he’s been lying frenetically for years on here, and suddenly he has a supporter who ignores all his lying?
Either you’re badly deceived, or you are Arizona lying again.
Since you talk knowingly about Arizona affairs, you are likely Arizona. But I’m not sure.
I am from Arizona and choose to use the moniker Mr. Crummy to distinguish myself from the other anonymous posters. For future reference Mr. Crumb peddler, Mr. Crummy, is the man from Arizona. For future reference I will not be communicating with you through the blog as you have been withdrawn from, something I was not aware of and with due regard to your salvation you need to be working on yourself not being contentious on the blog. So I bid you farewell for now but I did enjoy contending with you as it was a great intellectual exercise.
Mr. Impenitent liar from Arizona, yes, thank you. Aka, anonymous, Mr. Crumb Peddler, and Mr. Crummy. Hansel and Gretel spread crumbs to lead them to safety and away from a deceitful witch; you sprinkle crumbs to lead people to deceit and delusions. You don’t even attend Stanton, so spare me your sanctimonious pretentiousness. As for the withdrawal, God will judge whether women teaching is scriptural or not. Oh wait, he already has. Somehow, these verses were never mentioned during my withdrawal; how convenient. 1 Timothy 2:11-15 [11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer… Read more »
Faith and scorning are both amoral in and of themselves. If Eve had scorned Satan she would not have sinned. “Cast out the scorner and the strife will cease” when applied to Satan and his kingdom is undesirable as we want there to be strife and division in Satan’s kingdom and not unity and strength. It is not wise to answer Satan’s queries as they lead only to spiritual death.
Great verse.
Cast the lying scorner Arizona off the site with his foolish supporters, if he has any and isn’t pretending to be multiple commenters, the strife will cease.
The man hates to learn, hasn’t taught himself to tell the truth, but insists on sticking his poorly researched and unwanted opinion everywhere.
Only one liar on here, the servant of the Father of Liars, Satan, and that’s Arizona.
Is this liar calling me a liar? It appears he’s lying again.
Mr. verbosity tries (in vain) to make himself look smarter by making others look stupid, he lifts himself up by cutting others down a classic behavior of the arrogant personality. A much better use of his imagination is to see himself as humble and respectful of others which disagree with him.
Agreed, sir. Ryan Messano’s arrogance is only exceeded by his hubris. But neither quality contributes to anyone’s edification on this valuable and worthy blog. Nevertheless, it is his monomaniacal fixation on accusing anyone who opposes him of lying, when he doesn’t know what others know or have experienced directly and personally, that boggles my mind. It amounts to a form of spiritual myopia, which blinds him to reality.
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde,
Both of these commenters are likely Arizona up to his old tricks of lying.
Never have I seen a bigger liar in all my days.
It’s incredible to see the energy that hatred and envy have.
If the new commenter isn’t Arizona, he’s a foolish judge, for supporting a serial liar.
Two different posters,
If you aren’t Arizona, you are his twin. Both of you become outraged at the truth and insist it’s pride to correct reckless lying. Arrogance is serial lying which you either habitually do or wickedly support. It’s a setback that when reforms are needed in Stanton, we have to deal with confused liars like you instead of focusing on changes required to improve. If you aren’t Arizona, you have discernment like him, and if you are another person, you are foolish like him. Arizona has no moral scruples, so for him to pretend to be someone else would be characteristic… Read more »
Not pretending to be anyone else.
Habitual liars like you deserve no respect, and humble people detest you.
You wouldn’t know humble if it slapped you in the face. You couldn’t find humble with a map, compass, and GPS. Why? Because humility requires atonement, and that is one thing that you appear constitutionally incapable of doing. The evidence supporting that statement is plain for anyone to see: cast out, your presence unwelcome, and you have been withdrawn from. It is a linear progression along the course of which you have not taken even one step to correct or reverse, in order that you might be welcomed back into fellowship in good standing. Intractable. Inflexible. Stubbornly digging your heels… Read more »
Sounds like Arizona again. If not, it’s another coward throwing stones from the shadows, as they never learned courage in public. Only dead fish go with the flow, and this group think behavior is not only hard to break, but those in it the most defend it the most and attack any who think for themselves with God the fiercest. Your statement contains no humility whatsoever. Besides, I’m telling the truth, so if you have a problem with that, and you do, that’s your pride. “ cast out, your presence unwelcome, and you have been withdrawn from” You don’t learn… Read more »
Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight. From Webster’s 1828 Dictionary Lie: A criminal falsehood; a falsehood uttered for the purpose of deception; an intentional violation of truth. Fiction, or a false statement or representation, not intended to deceive, mislead or injure, as in fables, parables and the like, is not a lie To utter falsehood with an intention to deceive, or with an immoral design. Thou hast not lied to men, but to God. Acts 5:3. 2. To exhibit a false representation; to say or do that which deceives… Read more »
Realize that there are at least the different “anonymous” posters who are not from Arizona, that you are responding to as, “Arizona.” I would suggest, that you take the proverbs and group them into different categories such as: dispute and reconciliation, follies and foibles, food and drink, friends and enemies, goods and money, hope and despair, life and death, love and generosity, marriage and devotion, vocations and avocations, philosophy and religion, providence and prudence, social rank and behavior, truth and lies, universal truths, voice of reason, and words of advice. When you break down the book of proverbs into sub… Read more »
If they aren’t Arizona, they support Arizona’s lying, so their opinions are pretty worthless. Only a fool supports a habitual liar. You can save your Proverbs prattle until you figure out what Proverbs says about lying, Kindly do not make any suggestions to anyone on here until you suggest to yourself that you will obey God and apologize for all the lies you’ve been wearing yourself out telling. On your way to hell because of your lying, yet you have the gall to advise people on proverbs—the most ridiculous nonsense. Then, amid your folly, you call others foolish. The most… Read more »
Cultural Marxism Will do an overview of this topics history, then see how it has crept into Kevin’s blog. What has gone on on Kevin’s blog over the last few years is truly astonishing to anyone who values truth, reason, and logic, but it is extremely insightful. It is a microcosm of a terrible tsunami of Cultural Marxism that will be coming to America very shortly, as it’s already in France. The 2020 George Floyd riots that shook America are just a picnic compared to what’s coming. For over 100 years, Jewish communists have been fervently working to agitate the… Read more »
Amazing how 90% of even Christians are afraid of criticizing Talmudic Jews. Terrified of being called a “racist antisemite.”
Jesus and Paul had no fear of denouncing the Synagogue of Satan.
The sound of a snare drum in autumn’s early morning hours is quite refreshing.
Me: that’s strange, getting strange responses from family and friends.
Also me: Wonder who is controlling their mind?
Also me: see meme.
Also me: Oh, that explains it.
How entertaining when a penguin feeds it’s young.
Jews make up 2% of Americas population. So, out of Biden’s 30 cabinet appointments, we should have 1 being Jewish. But, 27 out of thirty are either Jewish, married to Jews, or have Jews right below them!!!!
Media won’t tell you because the media is totally controlled too.
The end of the book was quite confusing. I may need to return to the beginning for a refresher.
Long before Merie was born, and before any man or woman alive today was born, the culture, inspired by Satan, was training women to view themselves as aggrieved victims, and empowered. This mindset has led to the vast majority of women being unable and unwilling to obey their righteous husbands, and it has led to chaos in the church, where women who perceive and portray themselves as victims stampede like a juggernaut with their emotions over the intellect and logic that God designed men to use to wisely and prudently lead. “I was the major problem with our marriage! I… Read more »
Complete comment from Lori Alexander. “ For the first 20 years of our marriage, all of our marriage problems were due to my husband. This is what culture told me, and my friends supported this view. If only he was my Prince Charming and acted just like I wanted him to act, we would have a perfect marriage! I used my emotions to control and manipulate him. Then…I read a book that pointed all of the fingers at me. My eyes were opened! I was the major problem with our marriage! I wasn’t being the help meet God called me… Read more »
Despite the massive amounts of good that women have accomplished in Stanton, beginning with Marie and going down to the women who teach publicly today, obeying God‘s order would improve the results far more. If you are going to avoid alcohol, drugs, television, stealing, lying, cheating, anger, and all the other vices, why not go all the way and maintain God’s order for marriage and the order He designed for women in the church? Why not obey God‘s command that wives are to obey their husbands? Why not obey God‘s command that women are to stay silent in the churches,… Read more »
Children are to obey their parents. Did you know it is the first commandment with promise?
“Paul, in Biblical times, knew more than most just how evil men could be. He said so in his writings when he said, I’m the worst sinner. He knew well man’s propensity to do wrong, yet what happened with his life? He was a murderer who had a profound encounter with Jesus Christ, and his life was instantaneously changed. He suffered immensely for God and ended up writing two-thirds of the New Testament. You heard that right. Most of the Bible. God allowed a murderer to write it all. He was used powerfully all around the world and he did… Read more »
Ryan, I’m wondering if you have tried to find a church of Christ that is more aligned with your beliefs? There are churches where the women are definitely not teaching men publically and have a stricter interpretation of certain examples such as using one cup during the Lord’s supper. Women don’t cut their hair and they teach against immodesty.
There definitely are churches where women assume the roles and spheres that nature and nature’s God designed for them. The very Declaration of Independence in 1776 stated our laws are derived from nature and natures God. That was 33 years before Alexander Campbell started the Church of Christ in 1809. Part of the design of these Talmudic Jew bankers and their One World Government has been to subvert women’s roles. Once that is accomplished, and it was accomplished long before any of us were born, you’ll have chaotic families where men are subservient to the feelings of a woman and… Read more »
To be sure, a grapefruit by any other name will still squirt you in the eye.
For some reason the toaster is browning the bread in an uneven manner.
How do the Pharisees of the Bible affect us today?
The J*wish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talm*d is the largest and most important single piece of that literature … and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism
from The J*wish Religion: Its Influence Today
by Elizabeth Dilling
This thistle has been bothering me the entire day. I may have to call a plumber. Can you recommend someone?
In the book of Joshua 10 it speaks about the sun standing still for about a whole day and astro physicists say this is impossible because if the earth stopped rotating it would kill everyone on the planet as the sun does not move but rather the earth rotates on its axis as it revolves around the sun. So therefore, there is no sunrise nor sunset but rather just an appearance of the sun moving across the sky as the earth rotates on its axis. But there is two places where the sun does not appear to move for six… Read more »
These are uncomfortable truths that need to be discussed. While race doesn’t mean anything in the Bible and in Stanton, from what I saw, yet still, Christians are COMMANDED to be “Wise as serpents and harmless as doves.” That means Christian’s need to understand DARPA, what the agenda was behind the internet. I don’t agree 100%, but the 12-hour documentary “Europa, the Final Battle” is life-changing. I think movies and television are inferior methods of communication and would highly recommend those who have not already left these behind forever to do so now. Not a bad idea to compensate for… Read more »
If it weren’t for my gout, I would have accomplished all that I had intended. Please understand.
Just did a post on how Matthew Henry’s excellent commentary on 1 Thessalonians 5:21 relates to women teaching. Kevin’s blog won’t post the comment, to the delight and relief of not a few:), but it’s on my website. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” “This is a needful caution, to prove all things; for, though we must put a value on preaching, we must not take things upon trust from the preacher, but try them by the law and the testimony. We must search the scriptures, whether what they say be true or not.… Read more »
Her cat was named Mr. Spaghetti. Apparently she had a lapse of good sense when naming him.
Also Matthew Henry, in a brilliant overview of 1 Timothy 2, one of the passages where women are commanded to be silent in the churches, a passage which has been violated for the entire history of Stanton. 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man,… Read more »
Have you noticed the smell of fish lately? It seems to be coming from under the bathroom sink, which is quite odd. Please call a professional as soon as possible. I will pay after hours up-charge if necessary.
Matthew Henry also wrote an excellent commentary on 1 Corinthians 14. 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. The Apostle Paul doesn’t even permit women to ASK QUESTIONS IN THE CHURCH, yet Merie miraculously found a teaching that women can teach ENTIRE BIBLE CLASSES! Emphasis on this passage of… Read more »
Truly, you must be mistaken, as I have never been within 500 miles of Louisville.
From my friend, Alice Fluegel, on Gab. She gets it. This is a statement that isn’t anything remotely close to what Merie taught. When men are valued, they thrive, when they aren’t, they often sink into mediocrity, though it’s their duty to rise to God’s expectations no matter what women, children, and the society do. “This mantra, “I don’t need a man,” is the biggest lie we are taught by modern Feminism. We have a vital need for men. Men can be fulfilled in life without us, but we can’t. In most cases, we women need men’s rationality in our… Read more »
There is one exception you apparently haven’t thought about and that exception blows your theories right out the window. Dust yourself off my friend and try again. You will be rewarded for your effort.
Incel. Where did that harmless-sounding word come from? Any idea originating with the internet or since 1991, when the internet roughly began in world history, ought to be viewed with EXTREME SKEPTICISM. What is skepticism? It wouldn’t hurt to ask this question because the KJV language English has been under attack for over a century. It’s easier to rule over people who know a little than to rule over a wise, virtuous, knowledgeable, and righteous people. Ignorance is the root of all evil, and ignorance of God’s Word and Will is the worst. Skeptical: not easily convinced; having doubts or… Read more »
Forever and a day. That is a long time in any situation.
When you tell the truth, you tend to be hated and catch a lot of sour looks and criticism. Just read what Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel had to endure for telling the truth, they had practically no friends.
If the most perfect man in human history had no one to stand up for him when he died, it’s wise to think fallible humans will face tremendous opposition too, for telling the truth.
A foolish woman tears her home down. How? By being contentious, quarrelsome, loud, stubborn, lazy, led by emotions and feelings, spendthrift, easily offended, controlling, manipulative, discontent, unkind, selfish, and walks in the flesh. A wise woman builds her home up. How? By living in submission to her husband with a meek and quiet spirit, accepts him as he is, led by Truth, pours love and grace upon him, not easily offended, renews mind with truth daily, takes every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, works hard in the home, lives simply, content, kind, sacrificial, and walks in the Spirit.… Read more »
Rothschilds Owe Humanity Trillions in Reparations Reparations to the descendants of black slaves obscure the real debt the Rothschilds owe to humanity. The Rothschilds may discharge this debt by forgiving all “debt” due to money creation and relinquishing ownership of central banks to national governments. This is letting them off easy, but the return to national sovereignty, personal freedom, and truth is worth the price. Updated from March 15, 2021 by Henry Makow PhD A Tentative Invoice The Covid Scam – 10 Trillion World War Two – Ten trillion (includes Dresden, Hamburg and Jewish holocaust) World War One – Five… Read more »
The question was asked “have I done something to offend you?” To which I would reply: it is not what has been done that offends but rather what was not done that offends. Leadership sat in silence for 15 years from 2002 to 2017 concerning two individuals who not only physical abused their children but stood behind a pulpit at a holiday meeting and taught others to do the same evil, where was the counter teaching against child abuse? Many other evils have been exposed that went on for years and again leadership was silent. If you object to my… Read more »
CPS is an entirely illicit organization set up to facilitate child trafficking. They have done great harm since they were established. Before the government got involved with welfare, no-fault divorces, WIC, Food Stamps, Section 8, CPS, and all the other welfare programs, our nation was far superior to what it is today. Along with this has come incessant propaganda from the media and schools about how terrible child abuse is and how horrible cults are, which are wildly misplaced concerns. This isn’t justifying any ‘child abuse’ or incorrect teachings by any church, but both of those problems, astonishingly, pale in… Read more »
Article wouldn’t post on Kevin’s site, “Women in leadership” posted on my website.
Those that sow discontentment use just one word: more. When the serpent tempted Eve it was with the lure, the enticement of “more” knowledge. When Satan tempted Christ it was with the lure of “more” but Christ being content could not be enticed with “more”. More bread, more power, more protection, but Christ refused the temptation of more, each and every time. In Proverbs 7:26 it says that a certain type of woman had slain many strong men which at first seems to be a paradox but in the book of Joshua chapters 2 and 6 it tells of a… Read more »
Talmud legalized harlotry, transgenderism, homosexuality, child molestation, murder, lying, cheating, stealing, and much more, this is why Christ denounced the Pharisees so much. Same group are behind every evil agenda today. Women are trained by schools, media, social media, and corporations to prioritize jobs and schools over being wives and mothers. Jesus and Paul denounced these Pharisee Jews, Paul once was one, and were severely persecuted and murdered. Judas sold out to them. Does the church denounce these serpents today? Not that I know of. Technology has hidden the snakes from scrutiny, and they manipulate their puppets. Birth control, abortion,… Read more »
Christ taught that no man can live two masters, for he will love one and hate the other. Did Judas take and apply this teaching to himself? No for he loved money and had his God killed, but he was taught before he acted. Does this principle also apply to children? It does in the case of twins. Let’s consider Jacob and Esau one was loved while the other was hated. Issaac loved Esua and hated Jacob but Rachel loved Jacob and hated Esua as evidenced by her working against him and for the benefit of Jacob. Different parents will… Read more »
That is sad, that said, God provides love that parents neglect.
Esau was rejected by God for his choosing the easy route, a lesson for all humans.
The only reward for doing what’s easy, is it’s easy.
It’s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters.
Epictetus
Hard to find a woman like this, because few older women today understand women aren’t to teach men.
Too many older women fight so hard to teach men, which God never commanded them to do, and they have no time or skills to teach women to obey their husbands and to stop rebelling.
Let’s address some comments like “you can’t maintain a relationship with a woman” and let me give some backstory so others understand. When I was single in the church I was constantly accused of being unclean, even to the point of the teaching preacher calling me up at 4 in the afternoon and asking me if I was being unclean. When married the preacher from Albuquerque put out public teaching that I was not to have relations two days in a row with my wife (said in front of a midweek Bible class with my own children present) Then another… Read more »
That is astonishing to hear and is one of the supreme forms of tyranny I’ve heard of. A preacher called you in the afternoon to ask if you were being unclean? Incredible!! No one will do that anymore, but God help the poor soul who is suspected of struggling with that Vice. You’d be safer in Stanton if you had leprosy. The female teachers are death on it. Always have been. Their solution was to eliminate the men who struggled with lust, as they had no idea how to cure it; God heals lust with love, mercy, forgiveness, and healing.… Read more »
You don’t know half of it. There were in many congregations women who rebelled against their husbands and forced the man out of the home, happened in Oxnard with the married teachers there, happened in Prescott Valley with a babe couple where the wife faked having cancer then left her husband with the children then returned and told the police her husband beat her up and while he was in jail took their children and fled, and it happened in Phoenix with my wife falsely accusing me of abuse then taking out a restraining order on me and making me… Read more »
That is tragic. Yet, the problem is far larger than Stanton’s. The church simply followed the culture. Picture yourself a young woman, 18-20, from 1972-1980, just entering Stanton and listening to a fiery speaker named Merie. You come from a world just getting over the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s, where drug use and promiscuity became epidemics. You witness an environment with genuinely happy people, without alcohol, no drugs, no sex outside heterosexual marriage, no movies, television, and worldly music, and with lovely families and happy marriages. What’s not to like?! Any of us would have jumped at this as… Read more »
There is another side to consider about marriage in the SCOC and that is the men who were forced into marriage not for themselves or the woman but for the good of the church. The church needed responsible men, and nothing matures a man faster than marriage, so some were forced into quick marriages before they were ready. A man needs to develop a trade to support a family and how can you expect a woman to respect a man who cannot provide for her and the children? One man worked in shipping and receiving making only 6.00 and hour… Read more »
The preacher which you refer to from Albuquerque is an idiot. Disgraceful to say the least.
Thank you but I would say rather that he is just evil. A self-centered man who only taught the gospel when it benefited him or made him look good. When there were horrible abuses going on against children he sat in silence like a bump on a pickle. When men neglected to pay their child support he sat in silence. When told of an eminent adultery he said, “I don’t want to hear it” and taught nothing against adultery, and when the adultery occurred, he only put out a weak retort “are you happy now?” If you like to hurt… Read more »
There hasn’t been a congregation i Albuquerque in eons. Who are you referring to?
Even initials of this former Albuquerque person would be helpful; especially the initials of the man and his wife, if he has one, so no mistake is made as to his identity.
When you realize that you have not been taught righteousness but were rather used as pawn in the arrogant game of domination and control you will get angry and want to do harm to your oppressors. You may start watching violent movies like Rambo or John Wick or others to feed your own desire for supremacy but this is seduction by pride, and ends in self destruction. It is far better to develop persistence in the face of adversity than to give into one’s pride. When someone steals from me I have learned to say ” they were probably just… Read more »
Now if you can understand that no man can love two masters and this law cannot be broken and if you can see the Judas loved money and therefore hated God, and with twins that one will be loved and the other hated them what about married couples? Same thing. When two Christians get married their teachers will love one and hate the other. The four gospels show Christ in four different ways: as a slave, as a free man, as a king, and as a God and by extension these are the four different ranks in the church. A… Read more »
Now the last post on two masters: which of the two prattling fools will God choose? Which one is the Esua and which one is the Jacob? Which one is like Pharaohs butler? Baker? Which one is like the nation of Israel? The nation of Judah? The Kingdom of Israel? The Kingdom of Christ? Hint: it is a trick question because spiritual leaders make split judgements not either or judgements. To each his own as they have need, and I need reproof and instructions more than the other.
I posted an article on my website titled, “a single Demographic is keeping the Democrat party afloat,” detailing how single women are easily deceived. And a complete stranger calling himself “Country Goy” responded with this comment, which is spot on. Of course, the Republican Party and Democrat party are both run by Jew bankers. Women are too emotional and compassionate, even to evil. And this is exactly why God tells them to just be quiet. “1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to… Read more »
Would stanton be considered mutual edification
Yes, they are considered mutual edification by mainstream church of Christ standards. They don’t believe in the paid preacher system often seen in mainstrean churches of Christ. They do have two men who are considered evangelists who for 30 plus years have gone from congregation to congregation solving problems. The evangelists, when not traveling, receive numerous phone calls daily from preachers and women teachers who need judgement about how to handle issues in their congregation.
I’m sorry I hit send before finishing the comment above about mutual edification.
The two men who are titled evangelists are/were financially supported. They are the ultimate authority in church matters along with one woman in South Carolina who isn’t financially supported but her judgements hold much weight in congregational affairs.
Titled evangelist will be supported for life
Or if not mutual edification, which sect would the Stanton churchs be classified as?
I don’t know how to classify the SCOC as a whole because each congregation has its own personality depending in the strengths and weaknesses of its local leaders. Some are mutual edification, others are mutual destruction, no two are the same. The congregation I was in was a totalitarian dictatorship where individuals were squeezed for every penny and every minute of free time. The spiritual leader demanded that individual members pay for rental vans for the holiday meetings instead of the lord’s treasury, then demanded that the gas be paid for by individual members as well, but you were limited… Read more »
As far as mutual edification I will share with you what happens when a Christian abuses a child or commits fornication or adultery. My children are now in their twenties and thirties and not only will have nothing to do with religion or religious instruction of any kind, but are in fact become antichrists. I have an adult daughter that lives with me and so does her son, my grandson. She is an avowed atheist but has started practicing tarot cards, which is just foolishness to me. My 6 year old grandson does not bow his head in prayer before… Read more »
As far as describing which sect, they wold be considered mutual edification, ultra conservative (no orphan homes, no kitchens in the building, no church supported colleges or preacher schools. They use small multiple cups for the Lord’s Supper, they sing acapella, have a strict dress code for worship. Women do not wear head coverings and are free to wear short hair, the men are allowed beards and they keep their hair short. The signs on their building say The church of Christ Meets Here. They believe baptisms in any other sect of the church of christ or any other religion… Read more »
Thank you this really did help a lot. So are there any other churches of Christ across the country that are ultra conservative mutual edification that stanton dose not know about.
Also why is it opposed to have a kitchen in the building, I know there veiws on not eating in the building but not on the kitchen.
Now I do understand scoc are mutual edification but are they the sunday school church of Christ or non sunday school. Because if I remember they had “kids class” during morning and night class
Yes, they still have kids classes during morning or evening class but never during worship. The adults do not divide into classes but are always together as a congregation for their classes.
I forgot to mention that the church does have ladies class separate from the congregation but not on Sunday.
So would they be considered ultra conservative mutual edification sunday school church of Christ by the mainline churches of Christ
In a nutshell, yes, but they have some beliefs quite unique to them as compared to the mainline church of Christ. One in particular is their allowance of women teaching men in bible class. Each congregation has at least one preacher; often multiple preachers who preach on Sunday, and each congregation has at least one female teacher who teaches the entire congregation during bible class on Sunday, midweek class or Thursday non-member class. They aren’t allowed to moderate class behind the pulpit or lead in prayer or songs but they are allowed to rebuke, reprove, exhort, etc. for entire classes… Read more »
Yes, and that’s a practice that we never see in the New Testament, or in the 1,950 years of Christianity prior to Merie. What women teaching effectively does is exalt feelings and feelings positions above truth. Indeed, it’s a bigger sin in Stanton to disagree with someone in a way they consider offensive, and make no mistake, the vast majority of disagreements with a teacher will be viewed by them as offensive, than it is to actually tell an uncomfortable, unpopular, and disagreeable truth. In the New Testament, you never find a woman publicly addressing the church with men present.… Read more »
Does anyone remember the women who taught in meetings with Paul, Peter, Barnabas, Matthew, James, or any of the other apostles present? Me neither. Know why? Because the women in the times of Jesus weren’t indoctrinated by television, newspapers, radio, schools, and movies since the day they were born that they were equal with men. So, Jesus and his apostles actually could address the real problem, and today that’s talmudic Jewish bankers who control all the money and information. Nothing has changed in the last 2,000 years, except, with women trying to run their homes, the church, and country, we… Read more »
Dose stanton acknowledge that they are a sunday school church of chirst
I would imagine they are a Sunday school church of Christ because after worship they split the children into various groups according to age and send them to classes designed specifically for children; meanwhile, the adults attend a class designed specifically for adults.
Does this arrangement fit your definition of a Sunday school church of Christ?
Yes thank you
What dose the ” off church” see wrong with sunday school even if it’s only for the Christians kids during a Bible study
I should have been more clear. The real issue is eating in the building. Eating in the building is not allowed and neither is bringing food into the building. If a house is rented by the church to be used for worship and classes (and not lived in) the kitchen is not used and nobody is allowed to bring food into that kitchen to keep it cool or hot for Sunday fellowship. They are afraid of what bringing food in the building would lead to, which is a common rational for many of their other judgements as well. There are… Read more »
Are there any mainline churches of Christ aware of the stanton curches
I’m sure that the leadership of the mainline churches of Christ meeting in the same city as a Stanton church would know of the Stanton sect for a couple reasons. 1. When people leave the Stanton sect and choose to continue their walk with the Lord they often start attending a mainline church of Christ or at least check it out and the leadership of the mainline church would be made aware of the Stanton congregation they came from. 2. Before COVID, the church practiced door to door teaching on a weekly basis with everyone in the congregation participating. They… Read more »
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People choose how they look, dress and behave. If you see an adult on the street corner with a winter coat with fake fur around the collar or hood, with neck tattoos, and a scowl, you’re going to assume that person is a criminal thug with weapons, drugs, and warrants because that is what the indicators tell you and we trust in our indicators. If an adult dresses indiscreetly, uses sexualized language, and has wandering eyes, you’re going to assume that person has a problem with controlling themselves. Some individuals with a very high opinion of themselves believe that they… Read more »
I agree; it’s wise to minimize your risks. Going to an inner city neighborhood is a very bad idea if you don’t have a definite purpose, like asking people to a Bible class, and even that requires prudence. All Democrat big cities are ratholes, and that’s on purpose. Both parties are controlled, but the Democrat party has been controlled the longest, and they need crime and racial tension to keep the citizens off balance so they can divide and conquer. You wonder to yourself, why is it that you cannot find the violent crime, rape, and murder statistics for big cities in America… Read more »
Narcissist. Have you ever heard a woman call a man this? I’ve listened to hundreds of women call men this, and I immediately follow up to ask them what makes the man a narcissist. The vast majority of the time, it’s the women’s judgment that is the problem, and not the man’s. The media, movies, and television constantly spread this idea that authoritative men who lack ’empathy’ are narcissists. Where does the word come from? It comes from Greek Mythology—the tale of Narcissus and Echo. The Narcissus flower is named after this story as well. From the website Historyhit “The… Read more »
With the mythical tale of Narcissus the part about commiting suicide is true. I picked up a book one day about suicide and the many different reasons people attempt suicide thinking that as a Christian I should know how to talk someone out of suicide. A few months later I had to pick up my daughter from middle school and drop her off at her mother’s house. When I got to her mother’s house there was an ambulance out front with Terros on the side of it ( a local drug and alcohol agency) her mother had tried to drink… Read more »
That’s very sad. Ultimately, suicide is evil and selfish. No matter what we go through in life, it’s important to remember, ‘And this too shall pass away.’ Many people despair, when hope is right around the corner. Endurance, perseverance, and courage are necessary. Abraham Lincoln stated this in an 1859 speech in Wisconsin. “It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentiment to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words, “And this, too, shall pass away.” How much it… Read more »
I did not understand what marriage in the church entailed. I married a babe who thought that by marrying an older member in the SCOC the constant criticism would stop and she would be the one that would be exalted or promoted to the position of constantly criticizing others and thus free of being criticized herself but that’s not how it works. Once a person is baptized then, as it says in Proverbs 6:23, that reproof of instructions are the way of life meaning you will be criticized from someone for the rest of your life. Think that if you… Read more »
Hundreds of marriages in Stanton cannot reach their full potential ever because the wife never learned to obey her husband, and she gets bad examples every week in church when women emasculate the men and share in Bible classes. This didn’t start with anyone alive today; it began with Merie being deceived and passing this deception along to those who admired and revered her. Now, challenging the teaching that women can teach in public will get a man withdrawn. Amazing, God created man to lead, but it’s so backward that when he tries to assert his God-given responsibility to lead,… Read more »
Once you accept constant criticism as the love of God and thus criticism no longer annoys you then the real correction starts. In addition to constant criticism add constant financial struggles and physical infirmities. While all marriages end, (some in divorce others in death, for there is no marriage in heaven,) the misery never ends. My wife told me after her adultery that now I was free to marry and I told her no you have just made us both eunuchs. Though free to marry due to adultery when I tell a date that I have to pay child support… Read more »
Consider this: 98% of the soldiers who went ashore on the beaches of Normandy developed PTSD; 2% did not. Of the 2% who did not 1% were considered crazy to start with, just pure sociopaths who enjoyed war but the other 1% considered themselves shepherds there to help and save others and developed PTSG or post traumatic stress growth. All the trials and tribulations can be used as teaching tools to help us become better Christians and better leaders. Everybody suffers in one way or another but it those who consider it part of their training that go on to… Read more »
Sigmund Freud, a Jewish fraud, is the Father of psychiatry, which is where all these psychiatric terms like PTSD come from. Suffering has always been a part of the human condition, and it always will. The Greek Playwright Aeschylus talked about it in his play “Agammemnon” that great and flawed warrior from ‘The Iliad’. “He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.” Suffering is redemptive. It is not whether… Read more »
PTSD was first used in 1980 when it was published in the DSM 3 manual and not from Sigmund Freud. In making judgements one must ask oneself “am I overreacting?”. So many unrighteous judgements that have hurt others have come from an undisciplined and fearful mind where God’s law is ignored and mans desire to prove to himself that he is superior (and thus foster the false belief that safety comes from superiority, which it does not safety comes from God and not self). Judge righteous judgments without overreaction if you expect any credibility.
A great lesson today: inner work changing our self talk. Our thoughts become our reality therefore controlling your thoughts is wisdom. Start by writing out your self affirmations in the first person, example: I do not overeat, or I study for myself everyday, or I overcome evil with good. Many positive affirmations can be written and when repeated on a daily basis are believed and accepted as true and then one’s behavior changes for the better
The women in Stanton mostly have rejected the feminist lie about women working, to their credit.
But, they have never been taught, certainly never by Merie, to not teach men.
1 Timothy 2:12
12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Nowhere in the Bible do we have an indication that scripture is limited to Sunday Worship.
We follow Acts 2:38, that you must be baptized for salvation, why do we not follow 1 Timothy 2:12?
I would say mainly because of Meries ideas of women being in authority which is a huge reason on being withdrawn from east San Diego church of christ
Quite right, thank you! And, just as you cannot be a great wife, a great mother, and a great career woman, you also can’t be a great wife, a great mother, and a great teacher of men in Bible classes. That’s not God’s design for women. Merie’s example is familiar. There is a good chance she knew of Ann Hutchinson and imitated her example. Ann Hutchinson was excommunicated from the Puritans, as Merie was excommunicated. Both were excommunicated for defying God’s order to women not to teach men and yet, Merie’s heresy is going strong today and is so strong that men who… Read more »
You know one thing I never understood about scoc is a lack of evangelism. You see all these mainline churches of Christ with churches everywhere like McDonald’s. However when it comes to the stanton churches they only have about 30 churches. Lots of the churches have about 4 preachers which can be us3d to start a church.
A teacher in the Bay Area was given these guidelines by the teachers Union. He sent this to me today. Every child needs to get out of public schools! I can’t believe we have any parents who allow their children in public schools!? What will it take? I’m receiving the following guidance from the teachers union: 1. Put a rainbow flag in my classroom, and posters with obvious connotations and messages in support of homosexual and transgender students. 2. Introduce myself by announcing my pronouns. Instruct my students to introduce themselves by announcing their pronouns. 3. Explicitly ban any language… Read more »
Aristotle was right. Any organization when defies God and tries to make women equal with men will be promoting inequality, which results in the oppression that has been in Stanton from the beginning.
Part of that oppression is withdrawing from men who stand on God’s word and adamantly state women ought not to be teaching in public classes with men present, nor should they be participating in church business.
Annoying auto-correct.
Thousands of errors in writing, which I did not type since I started writing online 15 years ago.
*Aristotle was right. Any organization that defies God and tries to make women equal with men will be promoting inequality, which results in the oppression that has been in Stanton from the beginning.
Part of that oppression is withdrawing from men who stand on God’s word and adamantly state women ought not to be teaching in public classes with men present, nor should they be participating in church business.
I still don’t understand how stanton interprets 1 cor 13 34 to mean women only being silence in worship and not Bible study. I’ve heard people say if you read chapter 14 if talks about worship which isn’t true
Me neither. 1 Timothy 2 clears it up nicely if there is any doubt. Paul says women are to be silent, why? [11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. Two reasons, 1) Adam was… Read more »
The argument I have heard in defense of women teaching men in classes is that the only time the church is commanded to come together is on Sunday for worship, so that’s the only time a woman is required to keep silent. Women can make confessions, sing, say a few words to a child but must not utter a word or make a gesture such as shaking their head ‘no’ if they choose not to take the Lord’s supper when is offered to them. These rules apply to the worship room and the back rooms used for cry-rooms and also… Read more »
I do partially agree however 1 tim 2 12 says for women to not teach in all matters but if someone has better understanding please comment
Can someone please tell me the things Marie Weiss dissagrred with east san diego church of Christ and why she got withdrawn from besides causing division and sowing seeds of discord
Here is her withdrawal papers. It wasn’t her place to fix the church. Whatever needed correcting, God could have used many men to correct. She was teaching her own Bible class, as she had done in Stanton many times. Sure, paid preachers needed reforming, but, women teaching was even worse. This was a classic case of jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. This was exactly what Sarah did thousands of years ago. God created an order and Sarah was given a promise. She didn’t believe it, and had Abraham sleep with her maid, Hagar. This caused far… Read more »
So i understand she didn’t agree with paid preachers which is why she started a mutual edification church which is the smallest sect of church of Christ. But why did she not agree with having 2 worship services about all churches of Christ today have 2 services but stanton is strongly against that
Not sure about that, I agree with her on the corruption of the paid preacher system, and that two worship services are unscriptural, but, not her method of resolving it, which was to usurp the authority of the man. Yesterday, spoke with a twice divorced woman named Gloria. She’s in her sixties, a kindly woman who went through a terrible childhood, enduring her mother being beaten by her biological father, her mother remarrying, as her father was unfaithful too, and then she was told that her mother was an adulterer, by the church, because her mother remarried. Then, she married… Read more »
I agree she very much tried to handle matters in her own hands instead of talking to a preacher or an elder but can you please explain how 2 worship services are unscirptural even if you only take the lords supper once and you do not forsake the assembly by going to both of the worships. An awnser to this would be very helpfull
It’s the principal.
Our lives revolve around God, his service doesn’t revolve around our lives.
There was only the example of one worship service in the New Testament.
Two worships appears to be a relatively recent phenomenon, instituted by an apathetic church.
Are you still apart of stanton churches?also can u explain a bit better on why multiple worships is wrong I just had a hard time understanding that
Since there are no examples or commands in the New Testament for multiple worships on Sunday, where do you get the idea that multiple worships is acceptable? That’s a better question. Never mind what scriptures support multiple worships, there aren’t any.
Why are you asking me for scriptures, to show that multiple worships are not allowed? If you study the subject at all, you understand there was only one worship on Sunday in the New Testament. Can you please study first before you ask questions?
I don’t agree with multiple worships ijust wanted to understand stantons veiw
Also could you provide some scriptures as well(besides heb 10 25)
Also, why is it so important to you to have multiple worships on Sunday?
Ok, thank you for clarifying.
Are you still apart of the stanton churches?
Truth Defender, do you believe it’s acceptable for a man to work on Sunday late afternoon? Or early early morning? Let’s say he is a shift worker.
I agree with Stanton on this one, and I believe the New Testament also agrees. Having just experienced in the past three years actually working on Sunday as a truck driver, I can tell you it is far from ideal. That kind of schedule is not conducive to having a community life, a family life, or a church life at all. If a man can work early Sunday or after church on Sunday, though, that’s pretty stressful; it does not appear unlawful. Even the medical community has found that one day off a week is healthy. The body does need… Read more »
Smash the patriarchy! If you are a powerful Jewish Banker, and you want to destroy society, you must weaken Marriage and the church, and the best way to do that is to attack the patriarch, the man who is the leader of the marriage and the church. Patriarch: The father and ruler of a family; one who governs by paternal right. It is usually applied to the progenitors of the Israelites, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the sons of Jacob, or to the heads of families before the flood; as the antediluvian patriarchs. “Smash the Patriarchy” is the message the media,… Read more »
What if a man asked his wife to vote for his candidate and she voted out of obedience? I’m seriously asking.
I know very good women who do exactly that. I don’t really have a problem if a woman is guided by her husband, and she votes in a court with his judgment. That said, the 19th Amendment in 1920 was a complete disaster and must be repealed as fast as possible. That goes for the 16th amendment and the 17th amendment, along with the Federal Reserve in 1913 as well. It’s likely women will have to vote to end their ability to vote. One hundred three years, and it has been a national nightmare. You can look around you at… Read more »
“Making it impossible for one income to support a family & allow a mother to stay at home to nurture their children is a crime against humanity.”
Trouble man on Gab, the only free speech platform.
Word of warning, since Jewish bankers cannot censor on Gab, they have thousands of agents using profanity and racial slurs, especially the N word. Beware.
They are terrified of the races uniting on truth and God, so they deliberately have agents in all races spreading race supremacy.
Anyone hear of any growth by the way of baptisms within the dead cult of Merie? Portland is a dead congregation.
Initial growth in Stanton was incredible, 30-50 years ago. But, time tells all tales. And once the reality of what women teachers means long term was exposed, growth has stagnated. As a man, how can you get excited about inviting people to a church where women dominate? When men are emasculated, the excitement and leadership wither. When you are constantly fighting for respect from your wife, children, and women in the church, because wives won’t obey the command to obey their husbands, and women won’t obey the command to be silent in churches, where do you find the inspiration and… Read more »
I have always heard stanton use those defense of women teachers. The Bible says for a women to be silent and only in worship because that’s the only time the church is “required” to assemble even when stanton binds Bible classes. So if someone can explain how you can argue against this claim
It’s completely absurd. It’s just like the Pharisees found loopholes to get around God’s commands. Funny, because Merie was funded by a Jewish Pharisee. He was a leftist communist. Mr. Weiss, owner of Fedmart, which became todays Costco. Anyone who thinks Jews are just hard workers, and that’s how they own so much, and are so wealthy, is badly informed. Jews own the Federal Reserve, and can print out hundreds of trillions, which they give to their puppets and fellow Jews. That’s why of all the nations on earth, Israel gets the most foreign aid from America. This is why… Read more »
Incredible by what standards Lol. As the cult has always been very small in numbers.
Dose anyone know why stanton dosent call there November meetings and labor day meetings,
Gospel meetings like mainline church of Chriist
Unsure, but the Gospel and church both came after marriage and the order God created for man and woman. If the order for man and woman isn’t scrupulously followed in marriage and the church, chaos will result. This excellent meme addresses a common problem in marriages and in the church. Well-meaning women think it’s their job to fix the church and to fix their husband. It’s not. This began with Merie, who received the erroneous idea it was her job to fix the Church of Christ. So, she jumped out of the frying pan into the fire, making an even… Read more »
What dose the off church see wrong with sunday school 3ven if it’s for the saints ch8ldren only
Not sure of your question. I’ve seen non Stanton Churches of Christ, and Stanton have kids classes.
What dose the of churches of Christ see wrong with Sunday school when Stanton churches of Christ do it without probolems
Never heard the term “Sunday School” used in Stanton.
What is it?
Curious what kind of local Gospel preacher you are.
I am the local gospel preacher at a ultra conservative church ofChrist
Interesting. Which city?
How did you find this website?
Prefer not to say
Sunday school which I also mean kids class. Kids class would be seen as sumday school to the “off Church”
The majority of churches of Christ, including Stanton, see nothing wrong with Sunday School or kids classes as Stanton calls them. There is a sect of the church reffered to as anti-class brethren who believe Sunday school is wrong because there are no commands or exampIes of a Christian congregation dividing into classes.
Well they are right about that there are no commandments to divide class but how can you prove by scripture it’s okay
Proving it’s okay to divide into classes for the sake of teaching children is not possible by direct command, approved example or necessary inference but neither is the use of pitch pipes, song books, little individual cups for the Lord’s supper, baptistries, public prayer requests, May meetings, public confessions, women sporting short hair, women leading the entire brotherhood, women leading their congregation, women acting as evangelists…i could go on…
I don’t think Stanto would mind if someone called a November meeting a gospel meeting. That term is correct, just not used. On the other hand the October meeting, formerly known as the May meeting, is another type of meeting entirely. While the November meeting is open to all, the October/May meeting is a closed meeting. Only the main teacher and preacher from each congregation may attend. Last year they tightened up the common practice of members in nearby congregations visiting Thursday evening to fellowship with those attending the meeting. That practice is no longer allowed. The attendees at the… Read more »
Matt Walsh works for Jewish Zionist Ben Shapiro at the Daily Wire, but he is spot on about women leadership. This article is on Lori Alexander’s website, “The Transformed Wife.” And Stanton has been wrongfully allowing women leadership since its inception with Merie. So, logic and reason are out, feelings and emotions are in. And this has been tremendously harmful, however, since women are extremely lacking when it comes to historical perspective, since God didn’t design them for leadership, and so understanding history isn’t really on most women’s agenda, it’s nearly impossible for most women to understand how things deteriorate… Read more »
So very true. How many women in Stanton with righteous husbands weakened and enervated their husbands by going to tattle to the teachers on them? And then, the men frequently get blasted in Bible classes over things that aren’t sinful at all. Worse, the women frequently tattled to female teachers. So the men would get rebuked in public by women teachers after their wives rebelled at home and tattled on them. Preposterous!! It didn’t always happen this way. Sometimes the female teachers took the husbands side and blasted the wife. Such a disrespect for men!! And you wonder why there… Read more »
13 native Russians 300 Jews in first Bolshevik gig So very true. How many women in Stanton with righteous husbands weakened and enervated their husbands by going to tattle to the teachers on them? And then, the men frequently get blasted in Bible classes over things that aren’t sinful at all. Worse, the women frequently tattled to female teachers. So the men would get rebuked in public by women teachers after their wives rebelled at home and tattled on them. Preposterous!! It didn’t always happen this way. Sometimes the female teachers took the husbands side and blasted the wife. Such… Read more »
Please pardon the prior two comments, editing these isn’t the easiest, and there are website glitches that prevent deleting comments. So very true. How many women in Stanton with righteous husbands weakened and enervated their husbands by going to tattle to the teachers on them? And then, the men frequently get blasted in Bible classes over things that aren’t sinful at all. Worse, the women frequently tattled to female teachers. So the men would get rebuked in public by women teachers after their wives rebelled at home and tattled on them. Preposterous!! It didn’t always happen this way. Sometimes the… Read more »
why is everyone so afraid to just use your real name on this web site
I know what kind of name is truth defender
First Amendment was created by men; it would not have been possible if women had been in authority, as women’s emotions prevent them from looking at ideas with a clear mind frequently. Also, women lack a historical concept and so are unable to zoom out of their feelings to examine topics dispassionately. An honest discussion of women being silent in Church, all of it, not just worship, hasn’t taken place in the history of Stanton. The past October trip didn’t count. There was no discussion allowed in the individual congregations. The decision was made at the top, and all the… Read more »
I guess no one has the strength of mind and conviction to answer my question. So sad when we’re so afraid of men to not speak with a real name instead of a psuedonem.
Your question was answered. Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. How are you going to question others for not using their names, and not use your name? Normally, it’s a very good idea for people to use their names. I’m a strong proponent. However, everyone I want to know who I am on here, knows who I am. I personally have many enemies for telling the truth, and 90% of them aren’t in Stanton. They already have, not Stanton, perverted my comments on here, and attempted to use them against me, so, not wishing to waste my… Read more »
You assumption that we are weak of mind betrays your ignorance of people. First off Kevin Harper has forbidden us to mention any by name, so the same standard should apply to using our own name as we post comments. Secondly, consider that there are only three types of people, the wolf, the sheep, and the swine. The wolves are the arrogant who are difficult to deal with, they are the bullies. The sheep are the nice people who are easy to get along with, and lastly the swine who seems nice at first but are back bitters, liars, and… Read more »
I find it interesting that Kevin has “forbidden” the use of names but he mentioned Merie & another woman in his opening post & conveniently left out his mother who did quite a bit of harm. I know because I was a Stanton member as a teenager. I harbor no ill will, I just know the truth my family & I experienced while members. Kevin’s sister was a dear friend & I do also have wonderful memories. If truth is the goal then we can’t pick & choose what to address & only name specific people as “leaders.” Kevin’s Mom… Read more »
Interesting, thank you for posting. Wonder if you were in Stanton prior to 1984, when my family left. The tradition, unscriptural, of female teachers has been devastating. Kevin’s mother was very astute, very wise, very knowledgeable, and an expert on diet and nutrition. That said, his Father was brilliant, and one of the reasons Kevin’s Father was rejected by Stanton, was because he rightly objected to women teachers. So, the many fabulous skills and wisdom his father had, was never taught to the women and children of Stanton. This is what happens when women insist on trying to obtain a… Read more »
Pat, the reason most people don’t use their real name on this blog is because this blog is monitored by active members of the Stanton sect and they report who is writing. Truth Defender was withdrawn from for heracy because he writes on this blog and speaks out against women leaders/teachers in the Stanton churches. Even though he wrote under a pseudonym he is withdrawn from and completely cut off from his family and active members until death if he doesn’t repent or until the church comes to a better understanding of what the scriptures clearly teach. Active members will… Read more »
Interesting article from Lori Alexander today, “ SHANNON HARRIS KISSED BIBLICAL WOMANHOOD GOODBYE” I read Josh Harris’s books, before he suddenly decided to leave Christianity, though it’s doubtful he had a real Christianity to begin with. Likely he was a Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS) heretic. His books on waiting for marriage were largely spot on, in my estimation. In the article Shannon questions Biblical womanhood, where women are to obey their husbands and dress modestly. She doesn’t understand that without order, the church, marriage, and nation collapse. This attitude has been in Stanton since the beginning where Merie belligerently… Read more »
Gratitude. Life becomes very difficult without it. So, amidst addressing the nation’s and church’s evils, one must avoid excoriating good people. As King Creon says in Sophocles’ magnificent “Antigone,” a short but life-changing read, “How dreadful it is when the right judges wrong.” Why? Because it’s extraordinarily hard to correct legitimately good people in positions of church leadership who make mistakes. That said, let me not make the mistake of forgetting the happy memories of childhood. To love a human is to love them and hope the best for them always. Even in their sin and rebellion. For hasn’t God… Read more »
Without virtue; there cannot be liberty. Part of virtue is upholding God’s order. Which means wives obeying husbands, and women remaining silent in the churches. QUOTES ON LIBERTY AND VIRTUE Compiled and Edited by J. David Gowdy, President The Washington, Jefferson & Madison Institute lib-er-ty\ ‘lib-er-te` \ n [ME, fr. MF liberte’, fr. L libertat, libertas, fr. liber free] 1. FREEDOM 2. POWER 3. CHOICE 4. RIGHT 5. PRIVILEGE 6. DUTY 7. STANDARD vir-tue\ ‘ver-(,)chu: \ n [ME virtu, fr. OF, L virtut-, virtus strength, virtue] 1. MORALITY 2. POWER 3. VALOR 4. MERIT 5. CHASTITY 6. FORCE 7. AUTHORITY… Read more »
It gives me no pleasure to disagree with others. I prefer unity. However, I prefer unity with God and my conscience to all human relationships. Since I have so many cherished memories of childhood, it saddens me greatly to think that likely, soon I’ll be married, and the many children I will soon have, Lord willing, as my fiancé wants 20+ too, and my children will not be able to experience the beautiful childhood I had in the church, surrounded by righteous Christian’s, and hundreds of other children raised by Godly husbands and wives as well. No matter how grateful… Read more »
Can someone explain the concept of coarding in the church of courting i think it is. Also how it’s scriptural
I ment to say coarding or corting I’m not sure how it’s spelled
We modern American women are the prize. You take it or leave it. 1 in 3 have STDs, 1 in 3 have had abortion, 90% on birth control, 70% of us are overweight, we are not open for marriage before 31, our average body count is 5-8 but among teens 25 to 30, 5% of us are virgins on the wedding day. We prefer comfortable jobs that are paid less than men jobs. We are dominant, confrontational, argumentative, and in most cases very selfish. We have no wife and no home skills in general. We are a burden on the… Read more »
Can someone explain the non class churches of Christ reasoning. On why the oppose having age divided and gender divided Bible class (notworship)
“Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.”William Congreve That’s a very true statement. All wise men understand this, which is why a wise man doesn’t play with a woman’s heart and treats women with dignity and respect. However, however wise a man may be, he also has to understand that his service to God comes before his love and admiration for women, particularly his wife. Adam didn’t learn this, and so, by his listening to Eve, all of mankind was doomed to death. God comes first, before any woman on this earth. Sin weakens most men, and so they… Read more »
Hi Lori, A few years ago, I never would have imagined that I’d write to you. But here I am, a stay-at-home mom of two reaching out to say hello and thank you. I was raised in all the ways you tell women not to raise their kids: with a nanny, babysitter, and daycare six days a week. Often ate dinner with my nanny. She even took me trick-or-treating some years while both my parents worked. She also came on many family vacations so my parents could work or do their own thing. Even though I hated this arrangement, I… Read more »
Can someone please answer this question. Would stanton be considered a non class church of Christ or just a mutual edification church of christ. Also dose anyone know why there are barley any mutual edification churches of Christ I belive there are about 200 on the U.S today
Stanton is definitely a mutual edification church even though they don’t refer to themselves as such. They would say, ‘we are against the paid preacher system’, which means the same thing. Every congregation in fellowship with Stanton churches (approx 33 congregations with about 1,000 active members) all have a direct connection with Merie Weiss and her teachings. The historical information about how this sect of churches of Christ came into existence is covered thoroughly on this blog. Kevin, the creator of this blog, is the son of a current member who was a close friend of Merie and one of… Read more »
To answer your question about non-class… Stanton conducts children’s classes on Sunday morning and/or evening after worship while the adults have their class, so no, they are not ‘non class’.
Is there a reason stanton dose not have Bible classes before worship
Yes, there is a reason Bible class is after worship and not before. Worship is the most important activity of not just Sunday, but the entire week, as well as the only time the church is commanded to be together so it is done first.
Why dose stanton do public confessions
The reason they do public confessions is to clear themslves of public sins. They believe that a member can sin collectively against every member in their congregation by committing a sin in public. (A bad example is a sin). They believe that people in the world might see them sin and know that they are a Christian and the bad example would shed bad light on the members of the congregation. They are required to ask forgiveness, not just say they are sorry.
The concept is scriptural, and in accordance with nature’s law, IMHO. Good overview by anonymous. Anytime a member of any organization publicly violates the organizations standards, rather than bring the entire organization into reproach, the offender should apologize to the one they offended, or to the entire organization. Even secular institutions do this. Look at celebrities. If they do something wrong and are caught and incriminated, though most deny it, they are expected to show remorse and to publicly apologize. Just sick how sports players, if they criticize homosexuality, are expected to apologize to keep their jobs, and they do… Read more »
Humility, Pride, Love, and Truth. Of these four words, which do you hear most in Stanton? I’d say it’s a close contest between love and pride, though in the past, pride won by a lot. Now, pride appears a whopping three times in the entire New Testament, so why do we hear it in Stanton so much? Is it because when women teach men publicly, that is a violation of God’s order, and to maintain this inequality, the men need to be denounced as proud when they try to uphold the order that God and nature ordained, and no force… Read more »
Dose anyone know besides Joe gautreau if there has been anyone who broke away from stanton and stared teir own sect of churches of christ
From my understanding, Joe didn’t start his own sect. About a year after his unscriptural withdrawal he left the Stanton sect which he had been a part of since birth, and he and his family attended a church of Christ in Prescott before they moved to Texas. Now they are worshipping together in a home. Read Joe’s Instagram account, it’s very good. It’s called 1.foundation make sure you include the dot between the 1 and foundation.
Joe is a strong and faithful Christian who was done wrong by the Stanton church.
Where is Joe worshiping
He is living in Texas and is worshipping in a home with other believers. My advice would be to contact him through his instagram page if you would like more information.
And he is still apart of the church of Christ but the one he started right?
How can a woman learn the role God designed for her in the church and marriage in a church started by Merie, who rebelled against God’s order that women stay silent in the churches? Short answer. They can’t. God has been patient with the women in Stanton for 50+ years, and the men who enable them, but his patience is wearing thin. When Righteous men tell the truth about God’s role for women, that they were made for men, men were not made for women (1 Corinthians 11:9 “Neither was the man created for the woman, but the woman for… Read more »
How is your courtship going?
Very good, thank you for asking. What God has joined together, no man can break asunder. To find a woman willing to obey God and her husband, who is reasonably attractive, who is willing to homeschool, who doesn’t believe in divorce for any reason other than adultery or some other obvious grievous sin, like drug or alcohol abuse, and who believes remarriage is only for the innocent party of adultery, is a HERCULEAN task. And she welcomes and desires to have as many children as she can have and is only 27. Has the same name as Jesus’s and my… Read more »
Your in for a world of hurt. Women desire to be loved, men desire to be respected. You felt disrespected no doubt and reacted with anger instead of understanding. Your going to be tested and tried in areas you cant even imagine as yet. You going to be pushed to your emotional limits and then some. In Genesis 25 Esua thought he was at the point of death and traded his birthright for some food and in Matthew 4 we read of the temptation of Christ who after forty days of fasting was at the point of starvation yet refused… Read more »
Most marriages today are a world of hurt, admittedly. However, I control only three areas, my thoughts, my words, and my actions. Other than that, I have no control over anyone else, not even my fiancé. Now, God is over all, and I can appeal to Him, and he is far more effective at changing the course of a humans life than any of us could ever be. She already has massively changed for the better in just the 10 months I’ve known her. No longer uses profanity, no longer gets angry as fast as she once did, and she… Read more »
Getting angry over petty things at the outset is a red flag of a future abusive husband. In the initial stage the narcissist is supposed to love bomb their targeted by finding the targets deepest insecurities and then complimenting them. Once the emotional bond has been established then step two is the devaluing stage where you criticize the targets deepest insecurities, lightly at first, then with more emotional pressure as needed( this creates the trauma bond where the target will do anything to please you to get back to the love bombing phase ( which is not love at all… Read more »
I was pretty certain, if there was any criticism of my actions, you’d happily search hard to find it. Envy and jealousy simply can never rejoice in another’s good fortune. “Abusive husband” That’s a term that’s used by the fraudulent psychiatric community to justify any woman who doesn’t get her way. Abuse is a very subjective term. There is no reasonable way to define it other than a woman feeling good one day, and woe to the man who displeases her. Many women honestly think they can use their feminine clout to successfully isolate and prevent any man who crosses… Read more »
Thank you for the attention. You post publicly your criticisms of your love interest not realizing that opens the door for everyone else to also criticize her publicly, what a great foundation to a relationship! Getting angry is your number one reaction, it is the character trait that you exhibit the most. Constant criticism, and threats, are a close second, introspection would do wonders for you. What are you talking about with racial hatred, please be more specific with your criticism about that. Feel free to criticize me as I have become inured to constant criticism. I never went to… Read more »
Constructive criticism is fine. However, over a decade on here, you have demonstrated a pattern of non-stop criticism, likely what you endured in Stanton. And, the vast majority of your criticism is not Biblical at all; it’s based on the psychiatry it appeared you were taught in college, and it’s the lens through which you view the world through. Not sure what you majored in, but possibly psychology, listening to you speak. On the one hand, you ask about my courtship; on the other, you begin to inform me what you think about it in the eyes of psychiatry, which… Read more »
Still not understanding your racial hatred accusation, I never critiqued anyone on white privilege, nor black incarceration, you’re out in left field on that one, never criticized anyone on physical features on the contrary Absalon criticized me saying that someone with a large forehead is probably gay, with narcissists that’s called a dog whistle, that is, an inside insult, but I think that I explained it very clearly, you are misremembering. I do a lot of reading from a great many sources, some of it fits most of it does not. My current book is: The tactical edge written by… Read more »
As far as Solomon, he had only fourteen children and with no birth control at that time it could be assumed that he never touched many of his wives, they were simply “trophy wives” and as such they would become discontented without a husband and seek to turn him away from his God. Solomon had great insight into human behavior but was blinded to his own behaviors and weaknesses.
The Bible never specifies how many children Solomon had. What persuaded you he had 14?
Highly unlikely Solomon didn’t touch many of his wives. Pretty sure he didn’t have them for decoration, they were for use, and judging from the Song of Solomon, Solomon was no stranger to the natural use of a wife in marriage.
Solomon made a grave error, that likely cost him his salvation, placing his wives before God.
Better to imitate Christian in “Pilgrims Progress,” who, when his wife wouldn’t accompany him on his journey to pursue God, he left her and his children,
Hundreds of comments ago you were pushing the standard “Blacks are victimized” narrative, that the media and schools has been lying about for over a century. Not going back to pull it up. You’ve already given me lots of hard work keeping track of your lies. Hitler was 5’8” not 5’5”. Why do you constantly blurt out incorrect information? Why don’t you carefully think about information before posting it? Just in the last two comments you blurted out two new pieces of false information, Hitler’s height, and the number of Solomon’s children. You read a lot of books that are… Read more »
Non class churches of christ arethe best espically when they pay their preachers
Brother Hams, please explain your position that non class churches with paid preachers are the best.
Because we follow scripture
I’m also a member of non class church of Christ and non cl
Ass is biblical
If you can grasp that most of Solomons wives were never touched by him as evidenced by him having only fourteen children, then you can understand the position of a married eunuch. Yes, those women were married but had no intimate relationship with their husband king Solomon. Does this heretical position of married eunuch still exist today? Yes, it does. When teaching preachers such as the preacher from Albuquerque decide that he will separate a man and his wife to show his power in the church he is a heretic teaching a doctrine that should not exist but does, the… Read more »
Adolph Hitlers height was recorder as 5’8″ or 5’9″ tall, depending on the source you examine. The point remains valid though that he was a roaring lion who devoured his followers his physical size was of no restriction to him. Solomon had four recorded children Rehoboam his only son, Menelik, Taphath, and Basemath his three daughters, not fourteen as I first thought but the point remains valid that with no birth control, he would have had hundreds of children and he did not, thus it is safe to assume he did not touch most of his wives. It was not… Read more »
Is it possible that Soloman could have suffered from fertility issues? That would be a possible reason he had few children given his many wives. Just a theory… but possible.
How can you comment confidently on Hitler when you’ve already admitted you never read a book on World War 2? Even if you had, you’d still need to do the work of critically examining both sides, as there are two sides to every issue. There is strong evidence that the Holocaust was concocted. However, the media and schools are all run by Jewish frauds who push the Holocaust narrative more than any other historical narrative in history. You are allowed to criticize all historical events EXCEPT the Holocaust. If it actually happened, then why are they so fierce in criticizing… Read more »
I have read many books on WW2. The Holocaust lasted eleven months in 1943-1944 and 11.6 million people were killed ; 6.6 million were Jews or suspected to be Jewish, the other 5 million were mainly polish but also criminals, Jehovah witnesses, gypsies and anyone else opposed to the Nazi regime were killed. While there are Jewish memorials of the Holocaust there are no Polish memorials of the Holocaust and there should be. The Holocaust of 1915 was the attempted genocide of the Armenians by the Syrians, history does repeat itself. Communism has killed far more the Soviet Union under… Read more »
I’m afraid you are mistaken, unfortunately, again, as this happens frequently with you. Due to poor critical thinking skills and poor research, you come to the wrong conclusions, then you emotionally fight for your conclusions and grow angry and bitter with those who correct your constant errors, which no one forced you to make. I am happy for your contributions, though, as there are millions in America with the same problems you have. By exposing your problem and hopefully curing it, tens of millions more may be instructed. There are leaders in Stanton who have your exact problem. They come… Read more »
There is a difference between being wrong and lying. I am often wrong and accept correction quite cheerfully but lying starts with the intent to deceive. I am not bitter but am happy when others correct my mistakes for as Carol Dweck, a great Jewish psychologist, teaches in the book growth mindset: mistakes are a spring board for growth. My intelligence is not fixed but grows with each mistake I make. Supercilious is not righteousness and is easily seen and dismissed. The Lord said in Matthew 5:5 that the meek shall inherit the earth so this statement excluded the arrogant… Read more »
You are wrong quite frequently, as anyone who has been reading the website for the past few years can tell. But; that doesn’t stop you from confidently denouncing others afresh, weekly. You maliciously lied about GP and me. I haven’t heard you praise anyone since you’ve been on here, other than the psychobabble authors you idolize. You ignore the Bible’s commands to tell the truth and to carefully research matters before speaking on them, and you blatantly ignore the command to “Prove all things, hold fast to that which is true.” You’ve been denounced for untruths or errors you’ve told… Read more »
I do enjoy reading books written by wise men and Dr. Henry Kissenger is one of my favorites. A German born Jew he and his family fled Nazi Germany in 1937 or ’38 to the US and when he turned 18 in 1945 he was stationed in post war Germany. He applied to many universities after leaving the Army but only one responded and that was Harvard. He served in the Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, and Carter administrations. He easily goes from the concrete to the abstract and back to the concrete with no hesitation. In 1972 he told the Saudis… Read more »
Malicious lies about you and GP? I don’t know what you are talking about there, but I would ask that you not equate yourself with GP in any way. I will consider that statement just another one of your self exalting false accusations.GP sat in silence as children were being physically abused and parents were taught from the pulpit that it is okay to slap children in the face as long as you feel sorry about it; could we please have an anti child abuse lesson? GP sat in silence as one preacher abandoned his estranged wife and children in… Read more »
You summed up GP quite well. Worthless, unqualified so called evangelist, cult leader of a dead church.
Thank you for your devaluation. Love bombing is the first stage in a relationship for a malignant narcissist. Love bombing consists of showering the victim with praise and adoration, making the victim the center of attention, soothing all their insecurities. Once the emotional bond has been established then comes the devaluation phase where the victim is traumatized with constant criticism and total devaluation. You have no effect upon me as I did not accept your love bombing so too I do not accept your devaluation. Life for a malignant narcissist is miserable as they are the loneliest people because they… Read more »
How incredibly evil!! All of us who opposed masks and vaccines are vindicated, congratulations!! CDC Admits It Faked 99% of COVID Deaths To Scare Public Into Taking Vaccine Newly released data from the CDC reveals that most recorded fatalities that were blanket-blamed on Covid were caused by something else. According to the CDC’s Covid dashboard, just 1.7% of the 324 “Covid deaths” registered in the week ending August 19 had Covid as the primary cause of death. Disturbingly, the vast majority of people who were labeled as “Covid deaths” actually died of other causes such as cancer and heart disease… Read more »
170,000,000!!!!!! And that was in 1995, 30 years after the civil rights act of 1965!! It’s gotten much worse! Patrick Sheehan,?**! writing for the Sydney Morning Herald, Australia, in 1995, wrote what American newspapers would not dare. He analyzed the FBI uniform crime reports for the 30 years since the civilrights movement began and found 170 million crimes against the persons and property of White America. The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost… Read more »
Just received this book, can’t wait to read it.
I heard the word “feminism” in a class by a woman sharing, about three times in my whole life in Stanton, once very recently.
Unless this insidious evil is recognized, there is a good chance most women are hypnotized under its seductive spell.
I read the book many years ago when it was first published and it changed my life. She also wrote All the Way Home.
Please check out the books, writings, podcasts and YouTube interviews by Suzanne Venker.
Excellent, thank you for sharing; I’m glad to be learning this before I’m married, as I wouldn’t want to learn it while married to a feminist. That would be hard; I have seen so many marriages and churches ruined by women who have been stealthily infected with feminism. Once women emotionally believe they are equal with men and that their feelings deserve to be given rights and should run the relationship, marriage, and church are on a path to destruction unless God miraculously influences them to see their error and change course. No one on earth can make a woman… Read more »
A common awnser I hear in response to women teaching in Bible classes is that the church is not required to have a Bible class so they are allowed to. Can someone tell me how stanton is wrong on this one
I’m not sure on this one but mabey truth defender can respond or someone with knowledge on this please
That is an interesting viewpoint. However, it’s a specious argument. Specious: Apparently right; superficially fair, just or correct plausible; appearing well at first view; as specious reasoning; a specious argument; a specious objection; specious deeds. Temptation is of greater danger, because it is covered with the specious names of good nature, good manners, nobleness of mind, etc. 1 Timothy 2 and the 1 Corinthians 14 passages forbidding women from speaking in the churches are very clear on addressing all public meetings, and it’s addressing women teaching men. It’s not forbidding women from teaching ladies’ classes or children’s classes. Also, Stanton… Read more »
Great snakes!
Wonder why this has been erased from schools and media?!
Why women should take their husband’s last name ~ You become one flesh. You are his help meet. You were created for him. He is head over you. You submit to and obey him. You are his wife. He provides for you. You have children together. You are a family. Lori Alexander Marriage is the fundamental building block of the church and nation. Marriage was created before the church. If there isn’t order in the marriage, it will be impossible to have order in the church and in the nation. So, if God designed a wife to obey her husband,… Read more »
DO WOMEN NEED A VOICE? Wow! I can’t believe how often women talk about *needing* a voice. God doesn’t seem to think women need a voice. He warns men about quarreling and contentious women. He commands women to be silent in the churches. He commands young women to marry, bear children, and guide the home so they don’t become tattlers and busybodies. He commands women to have meek and quiet spirits. He commands wives to win their disobedient husbands “without a word” by their godly behavior. He knows women’s tendency to think they *need* a voice. He didn’t put them… Read more »
“When I see young unmarried men, I feel sorry for them because there are few women who aren’t full-blown feminists since it’s what they’ve been taught their entire lives. These women will want their husbands to cater to them and make them “happy” or else they’ll leave. They’ll also use their emotions and feelings to control their husbands. Unless they’ve been taught otherwise, they won’t make good wives or mothers. Buyer beware. Make sure you NEVER marry a feminist, young men. Find a woman with a servant’s heart who doesn’t demand her own way but puts others first and isn’t… Read more »
In 1907 Mr. Bingham was the Police commissioner of New York, and wrote that Jews made up half the criminals in New York. He was fired in 1909. Article is 12 pages, it’s on my website, since this one won’t allow links. Jews are good at getting rid of their critics. He was telling the truth. You are no longer allowed to study Jewish crime. If you say anything negative about Jewish wrongdoing, you are lambasted as a vicious anti-semite, and slandered and libeled as wanting to murder all Jews in another Holocaust. Your name is mud from then on.… Read more »